Thameris Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) What do you make of these changes? How will the price change impact in game economy? Is berry farming for profit dead or just heavily nerfed? What do you guys think? Edited July 23, 2019 by Thameris Link to comment
Thameris Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thameris said: Just started playing about 2 weeks ago and I got a nice thing going on, farming berries and selling them. Now these changes... I wish I didn't buy that 5x31 bagon an hour ago. Link to comment
CatHeads Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Starf Berries weren't listed in the change, and their profit was comparable to that of liechi-like berries, the most consistent in the game. They weren't farmed due to being slightly less profitable. This is proooobably an oversight, and they just forgot to mention starf berries. But, if this was intentional, the impact will be minimal. Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, CatHeads said: Starf Berries weren't listed in the change, and their profit was comparable to that of liechi-like berries, the most consistent in the game. They weren't farmed due to being slightly less profitable. This is proooobably an oversight, and they just forgot to mention starf berries. But, if this was intentional, the impact will be minimal. @Kyu make sure to nerf this ones aswell please Raichuforyou and Kamowanthere 2 Link to comment
Cacha Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 You can only sell berries in an NPC and the seeds will no longer be interchangeable, so yes. Or he slams gymnasiums as a slave and plants berries to re-sell them and win small coins. Link to comment
axx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, CatHeads said: Starf Berries weren't listed in the change, and their profit was comparable to that of liechi-like berries, the most consistent in the game. They weren't farmed due to being slightly less profitable. This is proooobably an oversight, and they just forgot to mention starf berries. But, if this was intentional, the impact will be minimal. They probably didn't know since there wasn't a massive amount of players selling those. Now they will nerf them too, thanks. Link to comment
Matoka Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, razimove said: @Kyu make sure to nerf this ones aswell please To my knowledge, Starf berry has indeed been nerfed (it should be 600$), it was likely just forgotten about in the list. There's a lot a lot of berries. Quakkz, axx, razimove and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
CatHeads Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matoka said: To my knowledge, Starf berry has indeed been nerfed (it should be 600$), it was likely just forgotten about in the list. There's a lot a lot of berries. That makes much more sense. In which case, this, combined with the amulet coin change and addition of lucky eggs, would end up cycling the money in pokemmo more. People will farm these items, others will buy these items, and the money moves around a lot more. I would argue that these changes, all in all, make money harder to get, which should prove to cause a bit of economic deflation. People who were already wealthy would have just gotten a lot wealthier, and those who haven't would start to get left behind. They added a new way to make money in regards to "charm" farming, and using them to make more money off of rematches. Likewise, they removed the AFK methods of farming, in regards to berries. It keeps people actively playing the game, which is good for donations and the like, as well as notoriety. That being said... it all depends on how the charms are obtainable. And until we find out, it will be hard to say. My theory is that, since wild chansey will be in sinnoh, we now have the option to thief them for money. Its a smart move imo... I just feel bad for anyone that had berry crops growing ahead of time. This change should have been made public a few days before it went live. That's my only complaint. Dibz 1 Link to comment
Thameris Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 I had 144 berries growing. I really really hope they compensate us for our investment that is now worth... I don't know, best case scenario about half, if not less... butterelemental 1 Link to comment
maximilious Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 This aint a AAA mmo, there will be no compensation for u! Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Thameris said: I had 144 berries growing. I really really hope they compensate us for our investment that is now worth... I don't know, best case scenario about half, if not less... Oh noes :( what will you do now, poor you. :((( Link to comment
CatHeads Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, razimove said: Oh noes :( what will you do now, poor you. :((( you seem to have a dislike for berry farmers :))) MauPk 1 Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, CatHeads said: you seem to have a dislike for berry farmers :))) Not really, I just dislike the method and what it did to the game, plus, I dislike people that think they are entitled on this sort of stuff. Link to comment
CatHeads Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, razimove said: Not really, I just dislike the method and what it did to the game, plus, I dislike people that think they are entitled on this sort of stuff. Understandable, making an AFK method of money making on par with the most used active form, and making it more lucrative for the time involved, would encourage people to... well, not play the game. And while it is true that the payout for farmers would now be almost equal to the money they put in, I still think it should have been stated ahead of time. Also, the idea of egg/coin farming being lucrative means people wont have to sit down and farm heart scales for pennies, and that this will instead become lucrative. Hence why I'm completely supportive of these changes. Link to comment
Kakacarrotcake Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I wish they wouldve said something sooner....I just invested in seeds yesterday there goes my 1 mil for nothing Link to comment
butterelemental Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, razimove said: Not really, I just dislike the method and what it did to the game, plus, I dislike people that think they are entitled on this sort of stuff. I'd say most customers, in any industry, should be entitled to prior notice before a drastic change in service. It's not like it would have had any detriment, the bots after all are going to be the number one profiters of the deflation that comes from this. Link to comment
taurosMEGA Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, razimove said: Not really, I just dislike the method and what it did to the game, plus, I dislike people that think they are entitled on this sort of stuff. Couldn't have put it better myself there so many ways to make money you berry farmer better get your pay day or breeding skills up. imagine everyone whos paid over 1mil on lucky eggs lol think how they feel Link to comment
BoltBlades12 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Let’s see what I’m getting here. Nerfs for Lucky Egg, Amulet Coin, Shiny Hunting, etc. in this new update- Nobody bats an eye. The idea of perma-keep all legendaries, including Uber legends- Everyone loses their minds. Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, butterelemental said: I'd say most customers, in any industry, should be entitled to prior notice before a drastic change in service. It's not like it would have had any detriment, the bots after all are going to be the number one profiters of the deflation that comes from this. Well, thing is, this sort of stuff is meant to "hurt", hurt is a bad word to describe what I mean, but I lack a better one sorry. This is meant to shake the economy and force you to adapt. Link to comment
Quakkz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 there were so many changes since 2012 which sometimes literally made us start from scratch (e.g. transition from catchmmo to breeding, the constant huge breeding buffs) so all this whining about the berry nerf is just pathetic WildHodor, Makarovs, OHJI and 1 other 4 Link to comment
butterelemental Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, razimove said: Well, thing is, this sort of stuff is meant to "hurt", hurt is a bad word to describe what I mean, but I lack a better one sorry. This is meant to shake the economy and force you to adapt. What part of that is harmed by telling the players beforehand? All it causes is a 1M universal kick in the teeth, that only "hurt"s new players. Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, butterelemental said: What part of that is harmed by telling the players beforehand? All it causes is a 1M universal kick in the teeth, that only "hurt"s new players. Not only 1m my dude, to some players is probably more than 15m, and either way its not money lost since you just need to use the proper system to sell them that they provided, GTL. WildHodor 1 Link to comment
CatHeads Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, razimove said: Not only 1m my dude, to some players is probably more than 15m, and either way its not money lost since you just need to use the proper system to sell them that they provided, GTL. I think their point is that the value of seeds just went way down, so people who bought seeds (and potentially some of them from pickup) are now stuck with items that they CANT sell, as they sell to shops for 0 So someone who bought seeds has effectively lost all of their money. Link to comment
butterelemental Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, razimove said: Not only 1m my dude, to some players is probably more than 15m, and either way its not money lost since you just need to use the proper system to sell them that they provided, GTL. If you're botting that many alts the loss of a single crop would probably be insignificant. The GTL is no more or less proper than selling to an NPC. And who's to say they won't insta-butcher the GTL with auction fee changes without notice at some point in the future? Link to comment
razimove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, butterelemental said: If you're botting that many alts the loss of a single crop would probably be insignificant. The GTL is no more or less proper than selling to an NPC. And who's to say they won't insta-butcher the GTL with auction fee changes without notice at some point in the future? It is, I'd ask @Gilan to explain, he is better than me to explain plus I think he studied economy to further help you understand. Player:NPC interactions allows you to introduce new currency in the game, thid is the same as you printing notes/bills at home. Generates inflaction, inflaction is bad. Player:player interaction is pretty much a trade, no new currency is being generated, meaning it doesnt harm economy. WildHodor and Makarovs 2 Link to comment
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