[Banned to BL2] Cradily

[DoubleJ]

Also orange, if you're calcing +1 attacks from cradily you should calc them physical hits against it with +1 def (curse ya know).

[OrangeManiac]

Also orange, if you're calcing +1 attacks from cradily you should calc them physical hits against it with +1 def (curse ya know).

Yeah, fair point.

[DoubleJ]

Yeah, fair point.

 

Ya, it just kinda shows how OP it is. It's going to live most of those STAB or CB Fighting attacks and may OHKO back with Bullet Seed, EQ, or Rock Slide, or even just get a strong attack in.  

Edited September 23, 2015 by DoubleJ

[OrangeManiac]

The NU Council has decided to ban Cradily under both Offensive and Defensive Uber Characteristics.
 

At first, banning under both Uber characteristics may seem odd but the main reasoning for this are the moves Curse + Recover (or Rest) + Bullet Seed + Rock Slide. Cradily has little or no problem at all to set up Curses against almost any NU Pokemon in the tier. After just one Curse, Cradily pretty much completely walls out the tier and making it an unbreakable setting up machine. Meanwhile a Careful 252 Sp. Def 252 HP prevents getting 2HKOd by basically any special attack in the tier. This way you can argue Cradily is in fact, a defensive Uber because with so little effort it can wall a significant portion if not the whole metagame. The only Pokemon that can really prevent Cradily from setting up are Choice Banded Aggron and Hitmonchan hitting on +1 Cradily and beating it but the NU Council feels it's not enough, especially considering how unused Hitmonchan is and how Aggron is 4x weak to a move Cradily can be techcnically running.

Due to the great ability Suction Cups, the only real way to phaze a Cradily is the move Haze. The NU Council feels that running a mandatory "Haze" move to keep a certain Pokemon in checks is not good for a competitive tier. In addition, this move is just overall much worse than the likes for the same purpose, such as Roar and Whirlwind which do not work against Cradily. If Pokemon in NU tier really need to start running 1 out of their 4 moves as a move which just resets stats, which theoretically is the only way to beat Cradily then the NU Council feels that this metagame is better without this monster.

The reason why Cradily falls under Offensive characteristics as well is because of the damage Cradily deals after setting up. If Cradily's damage output was significantly lower plenty of Pokemon could set up against it with Swords Dances and Calm Minds to proceed to break a Cradily but especially due to two powerful STABs, setting up to break a Cursed Cradily doesn't work either. The offensive power supports the significant defensive wallage. Cradily can sweep a significant portion of metagame often with little, or no effort as well as it can wall the whole metagame while setting up.

 

A common argument against Cradily's defensive capabilities is the move Toxic. Even though this move highly cripples Cradily and limits its performance, it doesn't shut it down. Cradily can easily run Rest as its recovery move instead of Recover making Toxic second to useless against Cradily. In addition Cradily can set up itself to such amazing buffs before needing to Rest so Cradily is anything but a sitting duck while asleep. There are no safe ways to beat a Cradily.

The arguably best way to shut down is the move Encore, which is in fact a really good move to keep Cradily in checks. However, the council just felt this is also too much meta adjustments for just one Pokemon and not enough reason to keep Cradily in the tier.

Cradily didn't get really notable usage statistics in NU tier arguably mainly due to being so incredibly hard to breed but everyone on the discussion seemed unanimously agree that Cradily is not good for NU Metagame and therefor it is pointless to everyone breed this monster which whether you used it or not, you find it to be a monster.

Due to these reasons Cradily has been banned to BL2 under both Offensive and Defensive Uber characteristics.

[DoubleJ]

Bye Felicia.