NiceRNGbro
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I saw that they are equipping support Pokemon with Leppa Berrys to recover pps throughout the run, a good strategy.
Also some offensive pokemons with support attacks like Lucario Heal Pulse, Dragonite Heal Bell+ Roost, Togekiss Heal Bell + Roost, Gardevoir Heal Pulse, Espeon wish etc
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7 hours ago, Jgaw said:
sincerely a good strat won't be given here, why ?? so simple, because it s a competition and top50 wins the startlight hat (a fancy lookin xmas hat) so maybe you ll find some hints of what elfs combination you should choose and what 4 comps to bring (most bring a typhlosion and blastoise) some bring chansey or blisseyr (heal pulse, softboiled, heal bell) for long runs
anyway, what i noticed this year is that they nerfed pp , maybe they don't want people to stay +15 hours in one run.. not sure
❤️ Good luck for all ❤️Thanks for the reply Bro!
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Hello guys, I came here on the forum looking for tips about the event and the best pokémons to use, I saw that no one made a topic about it yet so I decided to do it myself.
So, what are the best Pokemon to bring to the event?
I think the ones that stand out are hydreigon mamoswine conkeldurr togekiss volcarona sigyliph nidoking blissey, there are several that you can use, so I came here looking for us to form good strategies with our pokemons ^^
If anyone has any pokemon combinations or any ideas, feel free to express them.
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Yeah, ban moody pls
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53 minutes ago, OrangeManiac said:
The premise of this thread is just hilarious, do you really expect a poll like this to have any effect on anything.
As always wise, my beautiful woman.
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4 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:
Jealousy for me and @AndreRugila getting so many people together in one place?
I don't even know who you are.
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SpoilerAbsol
SpoilerFake Out + Quick Attack kills and so does Double Edge
If not using Quick Attack Sucker critical punch has only 50% chance to HKO, If adamant.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Absol: 78-93 (55.7 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Absol Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom on a critical hit: 136-162 (90.6 - 108%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
Honchkrow
SpoilerFake Out + Quick Attack = Death Double Edge = Death
If sucker punch Crit, Jolly still doesn't kill, Adamant Sucker punch crit gets 31% roll.
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom on a critical hit: 133-157 (88.6 - 104.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 6 Def Honchkrow: 81-96 (49 - 58.1%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 6 Def Honchkrow: 160-189 (96.9 - 114.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
Houndoom
SpoilerNeedless to say, horrible defense and not outspeed.
Fake Out + Quick Attack = Death Double Edge = Death
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Houndoom: 84-100 (56 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Houndoom: 168-198 (112 - 132%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Sceptile
SpoilerFake Out + Quick Attack = High chance to kill || Double Edge (Ambipom is slower) = high chance to kill
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 69-82 (47.5 - 56.5%) -- 86.3% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 138-163 (95.1 - 112.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Gallade
SpoilerFake Out + Quick = 91% HKO || Double Edge = Almost 100% HKO
It has Steadfast, but who cares?
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gallade: 69-82 (48.2 - 57.3%) -- 91% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gallade: 138-163 (96.5 - 113.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
OMG BLAZIKEN BAJAHAISKQIAJAKAOAKAJAGA
SpoilerThe big monster of the tier, it doesn't stand a chance against Ambipom.
Fake Out + Quick Attack doesn't kill it without rocks, but the Ambipom can simply take 42%+ off your blaziken and switch to a partner and at a later point kill it.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 66-78 (42.5 - 50.3%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
With rocks:
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 66-78 (42.5 - 50.3%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Froslass
SpoilerConsidering only its lead moveset, Beat up kills if it's more than 3 hits, I don't know how to calculate Beat Up XD
Calculating a Thief/Pursuit (no switch out) we see
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Thief vs. 0 HP / 6 Def Froslass: 114-136 (78.6 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
And
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Pursuit (40 BP) vs. 0 HP / 6 Def Froslass: 78-92 (53.7 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Ambipom can easily kill Froslass, given the necessary coverage.
Lilligant
SpoilerCommon on some hyper offenses, it cannot deal with Ambipom, it simply ceases to exist.
Fake Out + Quick Attack without rocks has near 50% chance to kill and Double Edge the same %
Fake Out + U-turn It can kill
Considering that most Lilligant uses life orb and Ambipom comes in to revenge kill, usually lilligant doesn't have full hp when entering
Ambipom, so it always stops lill's possible sweep
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lilligant: 66-78 (45.5 - 53.7%) -- 34.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lilligant: 130-154 (89.6 - 106.2%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Ambipom U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lilligant: 86-102 (59.3 - 70.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Scyther
SpoilerI did a calculation with the 2 possible sets, Eviolite with Swords dance or Scarf/Band.
It suffers the same case as Blaziken, it doesn't die to Fake Out + Quick or Double Edge without rocks, but it can still take damage and switch and come back later to finish the job.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scyther: 63-75 (43.4 - 51.7%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scyther: 124-147 (85.5 - 101.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Eviolite - Bulky, But it continues to suffer.
Fake Out + Double Edge doesn't have a good chance to kill, even with Max Roll on both (Gets 31% HKO considering Fake Out gives Max roll)
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Scyther: 42-51 (28.9 - 35.1%) -- 8.3% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Scyther: 84-99 (57.9 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Drapion
SpoilerBulky, but it doesn't stand a chance against a Fake Out + Double Edge.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drapion: 48-57 (33.1 - 39.3%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drapion: 94-112 (64.8 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Eelektross
SpoilerI only considered the Max HP set with Assault Vest/Leftovers, it is Bulky but has no chance against Fake Out + Double Edge.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eelektross: 63-75 (32.8 - 39%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eelektross: 124-147 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Golurk
SpoilerI only considered the Max Speed set without EVs in HP.
Quite Bulky, I don't know how to calculate Beat Up, but 4 hits+ depending, should kill.
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Thief vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golurk: 102-122 (62.1 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Ambipom Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golurk: 90-108 (54.8 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Bullet Seed (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golurk: 176-208 (107.3 - 126.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Cinccino
SpoilerI spare no words, Fake Out + Quick Attack = Death Double Edge = Death
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cinccino: 76-91 (50.6 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Cinccino: 153-180 (102 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Rotom
SpoilerI only calculated the offensive set, I don't know how to calculate Beat Up, 3 hits+ should kill.
Immune to stabs, can't be HKOed by anything other than Beat Up, and can reciprocate with Will O Wisp, However, it can take U-turn and get stuck to a pokémon with Pursuit, or anyone who simply kills Rotom (or Wall him)
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Thief vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Rotom: 106-126 (84.8 - 100.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
It can also help with Scarf Volt Switch/Thunderbolt which is not a good idea.
Escavalier
SpoilerBest possible for the occasion, it resists stabs and all of Ambipom's coverage, the only problem for it would be Fire Punch which is uncommon.
It can help stop ambipom with Band Pursuit, which takes a lot of HP from the little monkey.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 25-30 (14.1 - 16.9%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 50-59 (28.2 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
If using Fire Punch:
252 Atk Ambipom Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 140-168 (79 - 94.9%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Doesn't kill without rocks, but fake out + Fire Punch can kill, and with rocks it gets a 50% Roll.
He can return with a pursuit the ambipoms without Fire Punch
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier switching boosted Pursuit (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 107-126 (71.3 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Vanilluxe
SpoilerHolds Fake Out + Quick Attack "well" and doesn't take HKO to Double Edge, can be used Scarf that outspeed Ambipom or Specs that knocks it out, it has weaknesses to rocks and that's bad, because it's a Vanilluxe, it usually comes in to do Revenge Kill and put pressure on the opponent, So idk what to think about Vani.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Vanilluxe in Hail: 40-48 (27.3 - 32.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Vanilluxe in Hail: 79-94 (54.1 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If scarf
252 SpA Vanilluxe Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ambipom: 117-138 (78 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
Specs = HKO
Hitmontop
SpoilerI only considered the offensive sets
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 54-64 (34.6 - 41%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 108-127 (69.2 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
hitmontop returns with:
252+ Atk Technician Hitmontop Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 126-150 (84 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO & 252+ Atk Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 252-296 (168 - 197.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Intimidate with the same set
-1 252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 36-43 (23 - 27.5%) -- 62.3% chance to 4HKO
-1 252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 72-85 (46.1 - 54.4%) -- 55.1% chance to 2HKO
Hitmontop returns with:
252+ Atk Hitmontop Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 84-102 (56 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Piloswine
SpoilerOne of the best too, can handle to some extent.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 42-51 (20.2 - 24.6%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 84-99 (40.5 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Pilo returns with: 252+ Atk Piloswine Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 109-129 (72.6 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Samurott
SpoilerWithstands Fake Out + Quick Attack and also Double Edge, and returns with a lot of damage.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Samurott: 58-70 (34.1 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Samurott: 118-139 (69.4 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Specs: +1 252 SpA Samurott Surf vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ambipom: 141-166 (94 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Physical: 252+ Atk Samurott Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 87-103 (58 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO &
252+ Atk Samurott Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 43-52 (28.6 - 34.6%) -- 5.5% chance to 3HKO
There are still some pokemons that I didn't calculate, like Rotom Fan, Magmortar, Braviary, Pikachu and some UTs Offenses. But with that, you can have more than one base, with that we see that Ambipom is unhealthy against Offense, being able to beat everyone or almost everyone in 1v1 and win everyone during the match, if used correctly.
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Alright, let's go.
I'm going to analyze Ambipom against offensive pokemons, that's it.
SpoilerI will analyze the most common set
Ambipom @ Silk Scarf
Level: 50
Jolly Nature
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Fake Out
- Double-Edge
- Beat Up
- Quick Attack
Of course, containing variables depending on the pokémon, after all Ambipom is a very versatile pokémon, it can use Seed Bomb to capture Golem and Quagsire, Beat Up/Thief/Pursuit for Rotom and Froslass, U-turn to pivot (90% have this move, but don't include it in the calculations to demonstrate Ambipom's versatility, so this should be considered.)
Charizard
Spoiler252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 64-76 (41.8 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Fake Out + Quick Attack doesn't kill Charizard, but with Double Edge it can get the kill out of it.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 127-150 (83 - 98%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Alakazam
SpoilerAlakazam has Inner Focus, so it is immune to the Fake out flinch and can counter with Focus Blast or a simple Psychic depending on the item.
But his very weak defense makes him almost get HKOed for the Fake out/Quick Attack.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 96-114 (73.8 - 87.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
If Adamant, has "high" chance of HKO post rocks:
252+ Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 105-124 (80.7 - 95.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock.
Golem
SpoilerGolem can resist all of Ambipom's most common attacks due to its Rock typing, but if Ambipom uses Fake Out + Seed Bomb or even Bullet Seed, it cannot resist. but good seed bomb or Bullet Seed They are very rare.
252 Atk Technician Ambipom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golem: 180-216 (116.1 - 139.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golem: 21-24 (13.5 - 15.4%) -- possible 7HKO
if 86% = 252 Atk Ambipom Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Golem: 124-148 (80 - 95.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Magneton
SpoilerThis one also resists Ambipom's troublesome stabs, I calculated it with several different Magneton sets like Eviolite 0 HP, Eviolite 252 HP, Choice Specs/Scarf 252 HP, Choice Specs/Scarf 0 HP with Fake Out + Fire Punch, Fire punch is absurdly unusual, almost irrelevant but I decided to put it here anyway.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Magneton: 18-21 (14.4 - 16.8%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Ambipom Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Magneton: 52-62 (41.6 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO - In that case Fake Out + 2 Fire Punch would be enough to knock him out
In this case, it's bad for Ambipom, there's nothing to argue about.
252 Atk Ambipom Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Magneton: 52-62 (33.1 - 39.4%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO
And Magneton returns with:
252+ SpA Magneton Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ambipom: 112-133 (74.6 - 88.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Magneton is a pokémon that maybe can enter in ambipom, after all Fire Punch is trash imo, But U-turn pivoting and entering a Ton counter makes the game even more complicated.
Hitmonchan
SpoilerNot much to say, Fake Out + Quick Attack = HKO and Double Edge = HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 6 HP / 0 Def Hitmonchan: 63-75 (50 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
But you can try to do a Revenge Kill with him depending on the occasion in the fight, with a good roll in Mach Punch to kill
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Hitmonchan Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 140-166 (93.3 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Typhlosion
SpoilerThis one has the exact same rolls as Charizard, Fake Out + Quick Attack doesn't kill and Double Edge doesn't either, but if it rocks then your typhlosion was killed.
252 Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 64-76 (41.8 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Silk Scarf Ambipom Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 127-150 (83 - 98%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Typhlosion Specs kills Ambipom with Flamethrower or Focus Blast, Eruption also if it is not low HP
Ninjask
SpoilerHe can use Protect on Fake Out and return with Acrobatics with high chance of HKO, Quick Attack is not enough to kill Ninjask, if you have rocks your ninjask is already dead for fake outro
I won't expose Ambipom calcs because it's irrelevant this time.
252+ Atk Flying Gem Ninjask Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Ambipom: 144-171 (96 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
Spoiler- Matthzinxl and gbwead
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those who use wall have no problems with ambipom, not much, its problem is not being broken, it restricts the hyper offensive teambuild, and that's where it becomes a problem, I've lost count of how many times I was blocked by ambipom, how many times he ended my game for the simple fact that I used Hyper Offensive, Of course, he does have counters but the problem is to restrict who plays offensively, it's disgusting that monkey in NU, for so long.
This is just my opinion, maybe it doesn't matter.
But anyway, I think it will go up this month end for usage, finally.
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1 hour ago, SweeTforU said:
Can you ban ambipom already it's ruining the tier
unfortunately many laugh but this shit has to go away, a long time ago.
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Hola, I'll give you some tips about your team.
Tyranitar + Chansey + Aerodactyl is unfeasible in OU, due to several reasons, fighter weakness etc.
Aerodactyl OU itself is unfeasible, it has only one NICHO which is to be LEAD with Stealth Rock and its high speed to use taunt, but today it also has better leads like Metagross, Excadrill, Garchomp etc, So I don't recommend you to use this Core with Aerodactyl, Chansey + tyranitar can be kept despite also finding it a bad core for the almost the same reason.
Seeing your team's pokemons I could think of two cool teams, one with Tyranitar + Lucario and the other with Chansey + Lucario.
I'm not a super good player, but I hope I helped you, I hope I helped you and that other people help you too, have a nice day and a good game, If you want to ask something or want to change something in the teams, feel free bro.
Tyranitar + Lucario - https://pokepast.es/bf1b8f17889a1c57
Chansey (Actually, Blissey) + Lucario (by huargensy) - https://pokepast.es/ff7aa74d545d34a8
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1 hour ago, caioxlive13 said:
We don't had db players at the monent so i've asked if we could play the OU/NU duels, while i tried to contact our DB player. No answer on EN.
Even with a trash team, after failing to contact him i've decided to play Doubles only to don't get Defeat by W.O.random
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