Maelstrom

To add to this Conkeldurr can revenge kill with mach punch after a bit of life orb recoil and I've seen a lot of Bronzong lately which deals with it as well.

I'm torn on this, leaning towards the "test it out first" option. The mere fact that 2 pages of discussion have already sprouted out of this, on a mostly dead comp alley, tells you that Draco Hydre is anything but a "sure thing" when it comes to being banworthy - and don't we usually reserve quick bans for sure things? Let's not forget that the addition of fully working abilities/moves/items is essentially a power creep that will hopefully make hydreigon slightly less centralizing. If truly the only thing keeping Hydre from being banworthy is a slightly more powerful nukeSTAB, then I have a feeling hydreigon is gonna find its way to the chopping block sooner or later with or w/o draco.
 
On the other hand, one of my biggest concerns with complex bans is the confusion/simplicity factor, and I'll admit that the fact that this won't change the status quo (hydre's are already incapable of getting draco) does ease that concern a bit. I also see the detriment of ignoring the possibility of a complex ban entirely, as hydre is a dynamic, fun pokemon that arguably benefits the metagame in many ways. However, even IF draco hydreigon is broken, we could spend days arguing WHAT makes it broken, and Draco Meteor probably isn't it. So the whole logic of a quick ban, and i guess a complex ban too, just don't sit right with me. Discussion is healthy though, so I'm glad we're seeing that
 
edit: another thing i wanted to point out that Tyrone said in our discord, and possibly here too, is that with all the new items and such making its way into the meta, this might not be the proper time to test Draco hydreigon anyways - it would be harder to make objective sense of the metagame's health with so much in flux. So perhaps witholding Draco at first, with the chance to test it out later once things settle, isn't a bad option to keep in mind

Just to clarify since this topic is a bit important: We're trying to make sure that everything which is obtainable (abilities / moves / items) will be working for the next update, or as close to working as we can get it. That means all the items, and everything on the species which you can catch in the current regions.

Hi everyone,
 
It has been a while since the last server update, so we'd just like to give a bit of notice as to what we've been doing, and what's coming up for PokeMMO.
 
Late last month we released the initial Android client to donors, and we've been very happy with the response. There has been a lot of enthusiasm about it from new and old players alike, and we're very grateful for it. We are currently working towards making Android generally available, and we think we'll have the first general availability builds available within the next few weeks.
 
Because the Android and Desktop client share the same renderer, all of the performance optimizations which have gone into Android will also be propagated to the Desktop client. Right now though, the Desktop client is a bit unstable because we redid how many important things work in order to make Android as performant as it is.
 
On the server side, we have been focusing on finishing features of the game which are currently incomplete, like battle mechanics, as well as improving other existing systems. We're currently working to resolve the newly introduced bugs and glitches on the Desktop client, and we're hoping to update shortly after Android's general availability release.
 
Thanks for your patience and support

Megas are a example of gamefreak not knowing what they are doing when designing a mechanic, creating massive amount of power creep in the games, seeing as you are basically required to have one in higher tier gen 6/7 metas. Not to mention them giving mostly popular pokemon megas instead of pokemon that could have gotten a boost to compete with OU teir mons. So i would love if we dont touch megas at all here. Especially when how fucked up the current pokemmo meta is.

Hey! I have been finding that having a bunch of other players running around during an event can be a little distracting. A nifty option could be set in place to hide other players. Other features would include it to just showing friends or teammates. 
 
I think this would be a useful addition. Sorry if it already exists, I haven't been able to find it if it does (despite my searching)

As you wish

 

A bit... off topic... but... I don't.... understand.... why... people write.... like this..... like.... really... what is.... the point?

Yay! Even more reason not to pay attention in class 

You know, getting rid of the forums entirely would make moderation much easier.
 
I don't understand what the job of a CM is if it's not to moderate. I read some of the 4.3 fixes, and maybe they'll improve clubs a little, but the damage has already been done imo. If people are complaining that their team thread isn't private, well they can always make their own forum. But bending to the vocal minority in this case and compartmentalizing the community has proven to be a pretty awful idea, I'm sure your metrics tell you that. There's plenty of cms, round table can be moderated just fine. 

Except that this lvl cap system just unnecessarily caused problems for a lot of players, just for a bit more "challenge" that nobody cares and nobody asked for.
 
If it's not broken, don't fix it. If anything, you guys could just made the gym leaders stronger instead of outright turning any higher lvl storyline pokemon into
a useless piece of shit.
 
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound ungrateful, I can't express with words how amazing it is all the work you guys are doing with this game, really, but
the lvl cap thing was just a bad idea imo (maybe the only bad one that I have seem since I started here).

what are the best counters/checks for lucario and conkeldurr?

Freeze is part of the game whether you like it or not. All these dumb changes only serve one purpose: make Senile and the rest of you pseudo-relevant. Freeze are also part of what makes the game balanced and complex; if every aspect of the game is set in stone, we would end up with the most deranged chess game. Getting salty about a loss to RNG is fairly pathetic because everyone should evaluate beforehand what are their odds of winning before using a specific strategy which is why Fire Blast shoul remain a terrible move with poor winning odds compared to the superior Flamethrower option.

I think there should be a general miscellaneous thread for shitposting that doensn't warrant its own thread. Whether it's about a dank meme or a Modest Steelix build, not every post deserves its own thread necessarily. So if you have something super interesting to tell to forums but it would only require one post and no discussion - this is the go to thread. Currently forums are a mess to read when I'm bored at train and there's nothing funny left in Reddit.
 
Pros: Cleaner forums, less work for mods
Cons: Takes workload off from mods and they might end up playing Hearthstone just out of pure boredom
 
Discuss.

This time you really helped me, since I haven't noticed Blissey's base speed is higher than Conkel's.
 
I guess nobody runs speed on Conkel, right? Gonna fix it later.

252+ SpA Life Orb Blissey Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Conkeldurr: 146-172 (81.1 - 95.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
easy solution

Impish breloom.

Dugtrio & Wobbuffet are banned from OU to Ubers.
 
Dugtrio & Wobbuffet have both been banned due to their uncompetitive nature as versatile, obnoxious trapping threats. The amount of things they can successfully trap and kill is higher than it should be. Beyond that, having 2 broadly threatening trappers in the metagame at the same time, with no team preview, means it's effectively impossible to play around them at all.
 
In the case of Wobbuffet, it's ability to indiscriminately trap everything, barring the small amount of ghost types, meant it was unusually effective at discouraging most choiced pokemon. In particular, Choice Scarfers could be picked off with no trouble at all by Wobbuffet, barring specific threats like Hydreigon, due to being immune to Mirror Coat. Even non-choiced pokemon could get Encored, turning them into setup bait.
 
Ultimately, even though the TC decided to test Wobbuffet out in OU, it has still been shown to be a bit too effective in it's role as a trapper, something fundamentally uncompetitive. As a result, Wobbuffet is banned to Ubers.
 
In the case of Dugtrio, the buff from 80 -> 100 Base attack has given it the ability to trap and successfully kill way too many threats. While it would ordinarily still be an effective trapper, the buff makes it way less niche than it should be. As a result, whenever the next update occurs, Dugtrio's base attack will be reverted from base 100 to base 80. However, until the attack nerf is implemented, Dugtrio is banned to Ubers.

Soon™

no. git gud.

Disclaimer: I'm aware that this suggestion is technically an 'event suggestion' and should go in that thread, but's also a Vanity item suggestion, so it involves both topics simultaneously and may merit it's own thread.
 
A couple of years ago, there were a tournament series called Masters (of OU, Doubles, UU), which required qualifiers to participate in one final double elimination tournament with a grand prize.
Changes to the staff's reward policy regarding tournament prizes, has sadly resulted in this event no longer being held.
 
The format of this event is as follows:
15 Qualification Tournaments, One per week.
Winners of these Tournaments get a ticket, Runner-ups get a reserve ticket to the Grand Final.
The Grand Final is a Double Elimination Tournament, players require a ticket or reserve ticket(s) to be allowed to participate.
 
I suggest an alternative prize to the classic "Turn one of your comps into a shiny or pick a shiny starter".
 
A unique, untradeable vanity item: Only to be distributed to the winner. A season-themed Crown with special effects.
Winter: White crown, snowflakes
Spring: Green crown, flower petals
Summer: Red crown, sunrays
Autumn: Orange crown, leaves
 
In combination with a grand prize of 25M pokeyen for the winner and 5M to the runner-up.
You might be thinking: Tyrone, prize pool of 30M is insane, no way that will happen!
But here's the solution: The 15 Qualifying Tournaments will require a 25k pokeyen registration fee (64 man)!
Quick maffs: 25k * 64 players * 15 Tournaments = 24 Million yen sunk in participation fees.
So the effect on the economy is 6M yen, spread over 16 PvP events, which is less pokeyen influx than any current event (exception being CC) being held.
 
The requirements for this event would be:
@Darkshade making 4 awesome crowns.
A staff member willing to organise the Qualifiers and host the Grand Finals every season.
@Squirtle to approve the event idea.
The PvP Community's active participation.
 
Feel free to leave feedback on the idea and suggest improvements.
 

Torkoal, the drought-causing, crop killing behemoth himself is being Tested in UU.
 
It was initially placed in BL due to the fear of Sun teams being an overwhelming threat in UU with a Drought user. However, without Heat Rock working, these teams have much less time to work in their preferred weather, making Torkoal arguably non-broken enough in UU to warrant testing. This is especially so when you keep in mind that Gigalith, an opposing weather setter, has managed to carve out a niche and rise from NU to UU itself.
 
However, we are still well aware of how threatening Sun can be, and especially how much support it can provide to both fast Chlorophyll attackers such as Victreebel, as well as the destructive power it gives STAB fire powerhouses such as Typhlosion and Blaziken. With that it mind, we will be watching Torkoal closely over the next month, and will likely make it's final decision on it's place in UU by next month.
 
With all of this in mind, what are your thoughts on Torkoal & sun in general in UU? Discuss.

Would be better to have a usage limit for this, like for example being able to use this kind of item 3x per mon (not per IV) if possible.
 
I doubt something like this would be even close to devaluate 6x31 mons.

For longest time, the concept of changing IVs after the hatching/catching of a Pokemon was a concept that the developers didn't want to touch. I could honestly see why. But times have changed in both PokeMMO and real games as well. The latest update clearly shows that the developers no longer want to protect the value of pre-existing Hidden Power comps so this opens a perfect opportunity to implement "bottle caps".
 
Bottle cap is a generation 7 item which allows a Pokemon to maximize one of its IVs. Now, I acknowledge that retrospectively maximizing an IV might be a bit too overpowered in the way PokeMMO currently works. But I think we could consider implementing a "bottle cap" type item which would raise an IV by one point. I think it would greatly compensate the players who lost their 30 speed HP Fire/Rock/Fight competitive Pokemon and offer them a quick easy fix. And not only that but just in general give an easy solution to Pokemon that are just that 1-2 IVs away from being desired.
 
Make it an BP item or something.
 
If you're concerned about having Hidden Power changing because of this, essentially making the Gems obsolete - either keep the HP before the IV change or make the bottle caps expensive enough.
 

Alright, finally added preliminary ranks. I'll emphasize that nothing is set in stone and feel free to argue regarding any Pokemon's place in any viability ranking and if you're convincing enough I will change ranks with pleasure as the metagame develops.