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    The tier council needs a revamp because its stuck in 2012

    in Competition Archive

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    1 hour ago, NOREButler said:

    People: "TC needs a revamp"
    Munya: "Ok, lets put Stealian and JJ in "

     

    If you actually want a competent TC, wouldnt it make more sense to (considering you´d think that giving 1/3 of the votes avilable to any one team ever is a good idea - which it isnt) contribute those to the best team in the game and people who are actively and successfully competing?

     

    Why is someone who attempts to argue against banning a pokemon, but then continues listing reasons that support a ban, in the tier council? When someone cant even reflect on their own words, because they are so terribly biased; why does someone like that get to have a say in tiering?!

     

    Why is JJ in TC?

     

    Why dont you just kick Zebra, who even openly admitted to give 0 fucks and doesnt even play the game anymore?

     

    Will TC discussions be more transparent in the future since theres one team holding 1/3 of the votes? I honestly cant stress enough how stupid that is...

     

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    People complain about how TC doesnt work out and you go ahead and make it even worse. Its so damn confusing.

    It's sir Stelian for you or your highness, thanks dead buddy. 

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

    in Competition Archive

    Posted · Edited by Stelian

    17 minutes ago, pachima said:

    I don't think it matters who voted what for as long as someone come up with a proper explanation for their decisions.

    I am pretty sure there wouldn't be half the complaints there is if Munya or whoever is in charge came up with some paragraphs to reinforce the decision taken.

    If there isn't enough arguments to reinforce such decision then, imo, the situation is way worse than I ever imagined, but I believe this is not the case. 

    If there is, just point them in a separate official post or whatever. Revealing vote names seems unnecessary with this procedure and just allows for free and needlessly trashing in these same forums.

    I've deleted my message cause i changed my mind, we don't vote for them so it's not a democratic system but the system looks like despotism where a minority we didn't vote for decide for the majority. 
    I do agree, if there was transparency with explanation, it would be better, for all the decision : 
    Why is hydreigon not banned ? 
    Why Mienfoo is ban when arena trap is banned ? 
    Etc. 
    There is a need of explanation for all the decision. 

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

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    2 minutes ago, LifeStyleNORE said:

    The difference between U-Turn from Mienfoo and U-turn/Volt Switch from something else, is that Mienfoo can do it better and for longer, healing itself everytime it pivots on something. Mienfoo might not be dangerous on its own, but it enables other dangerous mons to come in freely, after it sponges a hit from most of the meta. It's also the premier Knock Off user and has Fake Out to deal with some setup sweepers. The problem with it is that it has become too splashable, to the point where you see it in 80% of the teams. I don't play LC here because I think it's a waste of resources breeding for a tier with no matchmaking and the occasional tournament worth playing once in a while, and also Devs just look at it as a joke. I've played LC from gens 5 to 7 and I have a set of eyes which enable me to spectate matches and analyze the metagame. You seem really bothered by this ban, I hope you can teambuild in the future without effortlessly putting a Mienfoo on the 6th slot.

    And ? In LC, you can only have matches that lasts 5mins with no strategy at all ? A mon can't be there to sponge a hit ? 
    It's the fact that diglett/trapinch is in the tier that cause the rising of usage of Mienfoo. No one was complaining about mienfoo before Arena trap was again in the tier. 
    If you played gen 5 to 7 on showdown, was mienfoo banned in these gen ? Just in gen 5 without fairy type ? No. 
    Lc gets more and more players atm, it's cool for you to not play it, we don't want trashy players on the game. 
    It's not about my teambuilding as i have several teams without mienfoo, it's the fact that withdrawing mienfoo makes the tier braindead. 
     

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Stelian

    10 minutes ago, LifeStyleNORE said:

    What you are describing doesn't = Uber support, which is what pachima mentioned. Completely different things.

    So, Pachima puts SD Mienfoo as counter to poison type.. But if it has SD, it's not a support. 
    With u-turn, mienfoo is not dangerous at all. It brings momentum like all the mon that have u-turn/volt switch. As it's a fighting type and is looked for, it is useful to the team. It doesn't hit hard. 
    So where is the problem ? The only thing I can agree is when arena trap is in the tier, mienfoo can be a uber support. Not when it's banned. If you ban mienfoo when you ban Arena trap, there is a huge problem. 
    And where was the last time Pachima and you played LC ? 
    All i see here is people who don't play the tier talking about it. 

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

    in Competition Archive

    Posted · Edited by Stelian

    49 minutes ago, pachima said:

    This fits Uber support characteristics.

    What you call uber characteristics is when a pokemon have a lot of set and has not counter cause it's too much powerful : LF hydreigon in OU.
    Mienfoo has naturally always counters if you can teambuild, that's the difference. 

     

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

    in Competition Archive

    Posted · Edited by Stelian

    38 minutes ago, pachima said:

    And this is called centralization.

     

    Finally this is not true. Sd Mienfoo, for instance, can remove most of those poison types.

     

    The only thing that could eventually go against a mienfoo ban this month is the fact Arena Trap got banned as well. Without AT mienfoo is certainly not the complete insane batshit it was, but after gathering yours and other arguments, I believe it is safe to at least consider it Uber support.

    What you called centralization is not. These counters work for all the fighting type and are an integral part of the synergy of a lot of teams and have a lot of utilities, other than stop mienfoo. 
    - Vullaby won't be played as much with the ban of mienfoo ? No, it will be played more as is nearby the only efficient user of knock off for bronzor left. 
    - Gastly, frillish, yamask won't be as much with the ban of meinfoo ? No, they still have their utility to hit hard (Gastly), check all the water types and clamperl (frillish) and toxik spikes/memento yamask. 
    Etc Etc Etc... 

    So, why SD mienfoo is not played as much ? If it has SD, it can't do the work against a lot mon as it has not u-turn or knock off and will be countered by a lot of faster pokemon as Mienfoo won't have eviolite for the bulk and flying gem. 

    Even with Arena trap, mienfoo is not an insane batshit. With arena trap, it HELPS the team to work. With your definition of mienfoo, having a mienfoo in you team give you better chances to win if you kill the mienfoo in face, the answer is no. 
    It's not uber material here. 

    November-Movement Discussion Thread

    in Competition Archive

    Posted · Edited by Stelian

    @MunyaI don't understand the ban of Mienfoo. 
    There is a lot of difference between an useful pokemon and a broken pokemon. 
    In the case of Mienfoo in LC, the pokemon is USEFUL, as it keeps the momentum of the game, it can knock off, have a priority, can sd and sub, have a good speed... 
    When you see that, you understand why Mienfoo is used by player. 
    But, in each team, you have 1, 2, 3 counters to mienfoo ! It get countered by a lot of poison type (arena trap is in the gam ? Mienfoo will rise in the usage as the counters can be trapped and killed and what happened when AT was not disabled anymore ? Mienfoo rised in usage by 15/20%), by a lot of ghosts type (yamask, gastly, frillish), is threatened by the second most played poke : vullaby, threathened by a lot of mon faster than him : staryu whith psychic, ponyta wow,  for example... 
    So, the pokemon is not broken, it's useful for the team.

    What I want to know here, who, in the tier council, has voted for the ban the mienfoo and who was against.
    I want to know who are these players. If they actually play LC and how many they were.
    Thank you. 

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