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finally o: usa
 

finally o: usa
 

Welcome to OU Teambuilding Competition This is a competition where you prove your teambuilding skills. Basically, what we are going to do here is see who can build the better team, hence the name. for the first OU edition i will give you guys a pokemons to build a team around (the team you sumbit need to be a pokepaste Link ). Along with the team, you will post a short summary that may include: your teambuilding process, how the team works. After a week, I will close submissions and vote with judges
 
 
The pokemon you can build a team around :
Breloom 
 

Rules 
1 The submitted team must be viable for the current PokeMMO OU meta 
2 Need atleast one  of the pokemon i listed above in your team
3 Don't copy other player's teams!
4 Be creative. We also judge on thinking outside of the box and trying to harness the potential from some Pokemon with creative ways.
 
judges : 
Luke
pablobacas
Huargensy
Kriliin 
Mkns
 
Deadline
28 july 11pm gmt+2 
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210728T210000&p1=338&p2=232&p3=179&p4=136&p5=213
 
Prizes:
 1st Place Prize
1 3x31 2x30 pokemon that is in the team you builded + 10 pp max
 2nd Place Prize
10 pp max

 
 

we have the worst captain impossible to win a week 

It is still ridiculous, according to you we must use infer or lucario necessarily so as not to suffer from cloyster, and then you say that everyone is free to wear what they want, in short, idiocy

Suggestion: Make King's Rock make the holder immune to flinches. Fanfic solution but who cares at this point.

WTF? ... boi how much time you were playing this game? so do you switch to infernape and he wont die?
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Infernape: 125-150 (82.7 - 99.3%) -- approx. 2HKO (When switch)

and if you gonna try to vacuum wave it
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Infernape: 40-48 (26.4 - 31.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
  also lucario steadfast instead of inner focus? Inner focus means lucario can't be flinched

there is not a solid way excepting of lucario INNER FOCUS to kill cloyster king rock after boost, with no sacrifice a pokemon.

Another troll thread from a troll themself.
 
So my message doesn't get deleted, I'll respond to your suggestion:
 
My suggestion, that even make this useless ban appeals becomes more rare, is a Balancing of your Opponent in Matchmaking
Like something that happens in other games, when the level of your oppponent, is according to your rank.
Especially during certain timezones, it can be very difficult / impossible to match with an opponent at a similar level to you (except OU), so good luck finding a game if you're attempting to play NU, UU and Doubles (MMO does not have a huge competitive playerbase compared to the handheld or other games)
 
Also, as discouraging as it can be at the beginning, how are low ELO players supposed to learn the meta and think of suitable teams if they don't play against a range of skills, especially players who are elite rank? If low ELO players play against each other, they'll both just end up using the 6 most popular Pokemon or random stuff, not knowing how it's beneficial in the tier.
 
One of reward base is 500 BP. But, if you win this reward in Veteran Rank, you'll receive 1000, 2000 or 2500BP. However, of Wiin in Novice Trainer Rank, the reward still base reward.
Naturaly, is more hard to obtain rewards if you are in high ranks, with this, but to be fair, the rewards comes better.
All you have to do is create certain teams and spam the ladder. It's incredibly easy to get up the rankings if you play loads of games, especially if you're playing in a timezone when the tier is really popular or when several are trying to obtain the 10,000 BP vanity item, (the exception being if you're consistently in the top 20 of the leaderboard).
 
Although it will definitely increase wealth for PvP players, this is extremely high rewards for a system which relies on matchup fishing - therefore I think this is also a terrible suggestion.
 
Anyway I hope this thread doesn't receive 300+ comments like the other one you started.

So my counterplay to not getting lucked to death is to use a low distribution priority move from two unsplashable mons and hope I don't get lucked to death by ice shard flinches on one.
The only reason walls are more likely to get flinched is because they are the only mons that may survive a 125 BP nuke from a Pokemon at +2 attack

So after all the shizzle you wrote here you are telling us that you are below 500 elo and struggle to get the pvp reward? Maybe you should consider learning the basics before you start trash talking. As Kupo stated some of the best players on the server are trying to educate you consider listening and learning bro

@caioxlive13Man, seriously shut tf up if you're unable to listen to us.  I've kept quiet reading this thread since the start and you've had answers from ex-council, Well-known players & even people that tried to give you the benefit of the doubt with some leeway responses to only frown once you answer.

Your only solution is to these items are "priority go brr" as if we didn't already know how the items work, so in your mind you just telling us to bring 6 pokemon with priority with chances of only 1-3 actually HKOing something (scizor/weavile/Mamoswine) while that one slot to having priority could go to something useful for a move to answer more of the meta instead of stuff like Quick Attack. Then you have the audacity to post in multi-media of pokemmo's official discord of sharing your answers to belittle the ones trying to actually educate you, if that's not enough you giving suggestions to report the players that do bother replying to you.

There's nothing you can actually provide as a solution to these items, asides banning them/Nerfing the effect so i don't know why you keep trying to defend with useless statements/information that's completely irrelevant, Honestly don't care if i get a warning for this.  

Fight me in-game, 20 matches and i'll use kings rock/quick claw teams and you can see for yourself how these items prevented a clear win & if you still defend it, then you're nothing but trash & i hope World Cup meme you. #caiobiggestclown.
 

1-. At no time did I mention that I would care about the percentage of victories, I already said it before, even if it is only 1 person who abuses it, that does not mean that it is a problem and that that only person is winning by the rng factor, in a launch of coins that makes the difference between losing and winning
2-. I say it again, this is a problem that affects everyone, days ago I passed a video where this item was thrown an offensive team, or is Magnezone also wall? reaching the other point, I have seen cloyster go back offensive magnezone and rotom in the same way that you mention "offensive teams" making it clearer the big problem that this item is
3-. I explained before that I play the 3 types of game variants in this, offensive, defensive, and balanced, there I put an image of my OU offensive team a couple of weeks ago, I also want to say that cloyster has not been a problem for me, or at least not that I remember, but this is not about me and my personal experience, it is about what makes this item and the user suitable for the overall goal, and the experience of other players who did not have the Same luck of not being flinched and they lost in a situation of tossing a coin to win,
it is a problem that encompasses many, on the other hand you showed a team wall of mine wanting to achieve I don't know what, something very low to tell the truth, but since I see myself Obliged because you only mentioned me and took a screenshot to want to take advantage of this discussion because here I place a team of yours with cloyster that doing something that you did, I can say that "You are against the ban because you use cloyster kings rock and it is your only way to knock down pa networks and you depend only on luck "
4-. Okay, you say "Everyone is free to wear" So why should we be forced to wear infernape or lucario vacuum wave to avoid recoil? Why don't we just run a well-formed team built without these mons who don't have space in the team we made, without fear that some rng factor will win us the game by a random shudder? Do you see how contradictory you see yourself? On the other hand, we should not think about the rival, this is a competitive game, not only do we take a jolteon and say "What a shame my rival, he can carry 5 water types, it is better not to carry him".
The pvp in this and in another game, will always be played to win, to demonstrate the ability of one or the other, that is why the randomness should be minimized as much as possible, and in any case, in that capture of my team 6 walls my rival asked me for the details of the equipment, he liked it and wanted to use it, I'm sorry my dear, but not everyone thinks the same as you.

BlackAlanis Won

Friend, you are very ridiculous, according to you we must play vacuum wave users just to avoid recoil, which can still be achieved with ice shard, that is 10% does not mean that it cannot be, you directly suggest that we all play lucario fear that a mon with rng item can sweep the whole team, that is centralizing, that should be avoided, we should not be forced to play things with vacuum wave like poliwrath or croagunk until scizor just for a mon with rng effect, because they just don't have the same viability as other mons in the level, okay, I wear poliwrath vacuum wave just for cloyster, what if they just don't bring it to me? I have an unnecessary slot that I could have used better in another mon, infernape is a separate case, nasty is not such a bad idea, but, should we all be forced to play that just because of an unusual rng factor? Listen, you are wrong, you created a problem in your head and you think your answers are correct, just think better, in a good way, you became a meme in this thread

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2017 - (July)
Jovi - Doc - Laz
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2019 - (May)
Rendi - LifeStyle - Lotus
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2019 - (June)
Luke - Julian - Lotus
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2019 - (September)
xLuneth - LifeStyle - Julian
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2019 - (October)
Drayyton - Axoa - Luneth
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2020 - (March)
Life - Jovi - Rendi
https://pokemmotournament.challonge.com/TTM2020
 

 
 
2020 - (June)
Lotus - Luke - Julian
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2020 (July)
Luke - Luneth - Matt
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2020 (October)
Frags - Jovi - Baneadito
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2020 (November)
Kiwikidd - Luneth - DocPBC
https://challonge.com/TTNov2020
 

 
 
2020 December (Cup of The Year)
Luke - Umbramol - xLuneth - DocPBC - YettoDie
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Overall Record
10 - 1
9 Team Tournaments ~ 1 Cup of The Year
 
 

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I won

I won

Just ignore him gb. If someone makes almost 100 posts in a 10-page thread then you can see that he's senslessly rambling from the distance. Not all people are capable of actually discussing something by providing reasonable, convincing arguments.
Well he is not exactly derailing the thread. He is attempting to defend king's rock but his arguments bear no weight as they have absolutely no sense, and everyone else who disagrees with him is called a "wall player". I guess people like him were the reason why tier council existed- so people with knowledge, skills and experience, can discuss what can be done to eliminate potential overpowered threats. Kinda shame that TC has no power here to make a clear stand and simply get rid of this item...

Once again, usages  has nothing to do with what people told you about lucario. When are you coming out and telling us you're just a troll account for clowning around?

Usage has nothing to do with something being overpowered. It's the same brainlet excuse people who want Landorus-Therian to be banned from Smogon tiers have been using for years despite more overpowered/unhealthy pokemon/strategies having less usage.
There are Pokemon that have the ability to always hit, doesn't mean we should allow evasion boosts. Same applies with sturdy and OHKO moves.

mods just lock this thread Jesus Christ. Extremely sad that the Admins always do the same fucking shit. Give some snobby vague reply because they can not justify any of their ludicrous reasoning, then let the thread derail by some clueless PVE player which has no idea what he's talking about.
 
We get it, these shitty items no one likes are here to stay. We'd all much rather you had some transparency and decency to justify this choice rather than avoiding the topic at hand or deflecting. But yet again we are all used to it.
 
Pretty disappointing.