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This part is just so unclear.  I don't know in what context you're saying that people are still employing scouts when that is the difficulty at hand.  How is the info I need distorted by extra info?  At what stage precisely is the person distilling that info to build a robust team?  If you mean building before a tournament, no one is denying that this is an important skill.  But time management and being able to distill all that extra info in less than 10 min is also a skill even if you know what you are facing.  Counterteaming isn't as simple as knowing what your opponent ran the last round because there is always a risk that your opponent changes the team.  There are players who build teams that can handle effectively handle other playstyles prior to the tournament, who fit in your example, and they too would benefit from a scouting system so that they can use the right robust team for the occasion.   Assuming one builds their team in less than 10 min, not only are they building it while keeping in mind of what their opponent ran last round, but they are also keeping in mind what the other threats they could come against, which means they are doing more work than the one-team player and in lesser time.
 
The reason there is a lack of scouts is because of this system.  You're also assuming that newer comp players don't try to join teams and try learning from others.  Can you support that assumption?  My assumption is mostly based on the newcomers in PSL who all are in a part of a team.  It probably isn't an accurate sample size but if you have any way to support your assumption that a newer player will never be able to bridge the gap between a veteran and a newcomer as far as resources go, please share it.  There is no explicit barrier in the game for a newcomer to do so, for instance there is no requirement that in order to join a team you need to have certain credentials / resources.  There is also a tournament called a "Team Tournament" which requires players to be in a team in order to participate, which gives players another incentive to try to join teams to participate.  I don't see any reason why a team would reject a skillful player despite their lack of resources.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how this part addresses my earlier part about the flaws in the system.  I also don't understand what is wrong with gathering information and detecting a pattern in your opponent's plays or likelihood to bring a certain team.  This can also backfire because you're not playing a bot, but an actual human person.  Pokemon is a psychological game and the other person can lure you into a false sense of them bringing a certain playstyle when they aren't.
 
Which part of my statement was false?  I'm not saying people don't bring anything new at all, but the system encourages people to play with safe builds.  This isn't new, but just because it isn't new doesn't mean that it is a good thing.  I also explained why it isn't a good thing as far as the metagame goes.  Playing with safe builds is good in this system, but not in another kind of system because it makes you predictable which can then make you vulnerable to other situations.  Safe builds don't always guarantee a win, it just has good odds of beating a newcomer because this newcomer is inexperienced to get past a safe build, whereas a more experienced player will be able to break it apart.  Safe builds are safe because they try to cover everything in the metagame, without rarely having much of a strategy of their own.  What you call "experimental build" I call advancing the metagame, and advancing the metagame is always a healthy way to achieve that end.
 
Pokemon games aren't meant to be a gamble.  Choosing your team isn't meant to be a gamble.  If you try to associate a competitive game with a "gamble" then we completely differ on our ideas of what competitive means.  If I put the time and effort to predict what my opponent would run rather than gambling, and it either backfires or works in my favor, then that is data that I can use to serve me better in the future.  I don't like making decisions without any lack of data.
 
What's the difference between "scouting" and "direct information reporting"?  Give me an example of how "even with scouting the meta has stagnated many times."  All you have done is provide a conclusory statement.  I can give you another example, with respect to MMO, as how a metagame has changed.  A few years ago, people used to run Exeggutor to counter Breloom and Scizor, but Houndoom was also prevalent at that time which meant that Exeggutor was no longer a good answer if Breloom and Scizor were paired with Houndoom.  So people had to come up with a new answer for Breloom and Scizor that wasn't trappable by Houndoom, and that's how Defensive Altaria with Flamethrower was born.  Now show me an example of an active metagame stagnating with scouting prevalent.  There is a difference between a metagame stagnating and the inability to come up with new techs to change the metagame.  The former means that people aren't making efforts to make any changes to the metagame and the latter is where people's efforts have failed.
 
EDIT:  You said that the player on top has a larger target on their back, I agree.  And when you say people work on innovating and breaking that team, that's exactly what we want as well.  In the current tournament system it becomes hard to do since you don't know whom you're facing so you won't  be able to run that team that can break theirs.  You then mention that a player hinders themselves in the long run by not making extra investments, which the current system encourages them not to do.  The only reason such players would fall from their standing is because players "scouted" or "countered" them.

Just when I thought 2020 couldn't get any worse

Just when I thought 2020 couldn't get any worse

Just when I thought 2020 couldn't get any worse

You don't understand I KILLED THE BOSS he gave a dialogue and gave me nothing he started a new battle again bro and unfair my Pokémon was already hurt from the first battle.
Seriously, if you don't give me back the candy I lost in the battle I killed Boss, I'll start a lawsuit against PokéMMO.

So basically this is fantasy football but with pokescrubs. sign me up

IGN: Baneadito Reason: Play my first psl Preferred tienes: everyone Competitive accolades :1 shiny won some lost finals, and several cc won, in addition to the semifinals in my first World Cup being captain of Mexico Discord contact : Baneadito#9231 Other fandom stuff : Cristi is my boyfriend, let's go in a package

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Frags
NikhilR
gbwead
wyqnibaba
stairway
Axoa
Rendi
Kupokun

Frags
NikhilR
gbwead
wyqnibaba
stairway
Axoa
Rendi
Kupokun

I say we riot and collectively uninstall pokemmo.
 
As Gandhi once said, don't fight the system, abandon it.

They have 3 different versions of the storyline. The canon storyline is Heavens feel which is a movie.

Hey that's my alt!

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

My post is basically going to be a template off of a friend's post on Smogon that describes my feelings in a manner that is way better than I could describe:
 
Congrats to Umbramol 's team on this week's win . I don't even know where to begin to describe my WC team, but it's safe to say that I don't ever remember teaming up with a few of these players this incompetent or useless in a very long time. I thought my worst WC team was behind me, but boy was I wrong. Thank you to these guys for reminding me that no matter how bad things are, they can always be worse. You guys make every competent player who has quit the game feel blessed or lucky that they don't have to witness the dumbassery that I do every week. 
 
@gbwead  I promised you before WC that we'd have our game, and I'm sorry that it doesn't matter record-wise, but since this is going to be my last game of WC, I will play it like it matters so that it'll be a good one

Lets do a rematch of @Umbramol and @Evlgoon then. #umbralivesmatter