OrangeManiac Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 i'm not sure if i'm just getting it wrong but shouldn't i be at 9 points instead of 10? unless the summer ball invite is +2, but im not sure Summer ball qualifier is treated as a standard official Link to comment
Toast Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Summer ball qualifier is treated as a standard official even if i got second in it? DrCraig 1 Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 even if i got second in it? Then that is an overlook by me, I'll take a look Toast 1 Link to comment
Blue Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 17th [Aw] Bluejim - 11.0 Points (3 - 3 - 2 - 1) i think it should be (3-3-1-2) instead my points are alright OrangeManiac 1 Link to comment
DestructX Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 not sure if i was miscounting in my head over the past few months, but i think i have more than 23.5, its somewhere around the 25.5 range Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Toast got fixed, I had accidentally put some 2nd place as a win. not sure if i was miscounting in my head over the past few months, but i think i have more than 23.5, its somewhere around the 25.5 range I had you as 7-8-1-1 but I recounted and your score is 8-8-1-1 so yeah, you're at 25.5 DoubleJ and Toast 2 Link to comment
NikhilR Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Des knows how to keep his W/L ratio 50/50. Bowser and I are proud of you. KingBowser, DoubleJ, RysPicz and 2 others 5 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 With the implementation of a thus far successful ladder system, will you award points to say the top three when the system gets reset? I'm imagining there will be prizes awarded by the devs with each reset, or something something at least (I hope). Link to comment
DrCraig Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 With the implementation of a thus far successful ladder system, will you award points to say the top three when the system gets reset? I'm imagining there will be prizes awarded by the devs with each reset, or something something at least (I hope). matchmaking is taken seriously? Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 matchmaking is taken seriously? Well when players have over 50 matches already with this dumb intermittent ranked match system, I'd say so. Link to comment
DrCraig Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Well when players have over 50 matches already with this dumb intermittent ranked match system, I'd say so.Really all of the vermillion folk just got migrated into the matchmaking along with some other players who want some BP and entertainment. Apparently unranked is ass and I understand that but it doesn't mean ranked is anything special either. I think the HoF would be more consistent if it stuck to tournament. Maybe adding a section for ranked matchmaking would be cool, but the thing is I doubt every player takes matchmaking serious. I think it's just for practicing. This means matchmaking doesn't have official prestige is its a practice platform. Just another person viewpoint here I guess. Edited April 6, 2016 by DrCraig Link to comment
KingBowser Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Really all of the vermillion folk just got migrated into the matchmaking along with some other players who want some BP and entertainment. Apparently unranked is ass and I understand that but it doesn't mean ranked is anything special either. I think the HoF would be more consistent if it stuck to tournament. Maybe adding a section for ranked matchmaking would be cool, but the thing is I doubt every player takes matchmaking serious. I think it's just for practicing. This means matchmaking doesn't have official prestige is its a practice platform. Just another person viewpoint here I guess. They may have migrated to there, but they are not doing well on there. The top rank ladder players are the one who consistently do well at official tournaments. No top player likes losing, so I dont they are jjust using "fun" teams. Edited April 6, 2016 by KingBowser DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/62526-spring-fever-series-qualifier-1-sunday-april-3rd/+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/60745-doubles-hype-train-3-february-6th/+1 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/25623-psychological-warfare-6v6-ou/?hl=drowzee+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/25968-oceanic-tourney/+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/10228-official-pokemon-world-tournament-junior-cup-results-and-post-discussion/+2 pls add me now thx <3 (pretty sure im missing a couple 2nd places too) EDIT: Removed quiz tournament and togepi cup seeing as they dont count apparantly (even tho togepi is a legit tier with official tournaments every month) Edited April 6, 2016 by DoctorPBC Link to comment
DrCraig Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 They may have migrated to there, but they are not doing well on there. The top rank ladder players are the one who consistently do well at official tournaments. No top player likes losing, so I dont they are jjust using "fun" teams.Obviously no top play likes losing but there is also nothing on the line in matchmaking. It's the best place to good practice for officials. You don't get knocked out of matchmaking for a week. Like I said: a section specifically for matchmaking top player would be cool as long as it's separate from the traditional hall of fame section. I don't think it would be appropriate to weight matchmaking wins close to official wins. That's my stance. I'm just clarifying because I must not have. Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Ladder seems sort of an unfair way to determine the "best" players exactly because the more you have matches the "lesser" your win rate needs to be. I definitely do think the tournament in the end of each month(?) in which you qualify with your ladder rating should be used as a tournament here but I'm not in favor to include Ladder as a plain source for points in this table. Willing to hear discussion, though obvs. Arimanius and DrCraig 2 Link to comment
KingBowser Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Obviously no top play likes losing but there is also nothing on the line in matchmaking. It's the best place to good practice for officials. You don't get knocked out of matchmaking for a week. Like I said: a section specifically for matchmaking top player would be cool as long as it's separate from the traditional hall of fame section. I don't think it would be appropriate to weight matchmaking wins close to official wins. That's my stance. I'm just clarifying because I must not have. Ofc I understood where you stood, but this is going to be a decision orange will have to make, so I like to give an opposing argument. Its not like its easy to get to the top or easy to stay on top, you have to be very consistent, but in a tournament, you can easily lose/win with some rng. Less counter teaming in laddering, have to win much more than 5-6 matches. DoubleJ, DrCraig, OrangeManiac and 2 others 5 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) As Bowser has eluded to, it takes a lot of commitment to "ladder". Players at the top of the list have 40+ wins and at worst a 68% W/L, which is pretty damn good imo. The thing about laddering is that there is something on the line and that something is your win percentage. I've got like 19 matches in the system and each of my 5 losses were freaking painful to me. If I play, I play to win, just like I imagine Frags, ZDFire, or DestructX do while trying to stay on the top of the system. I personally like the idea of rewarding points for being top ranked. Edited April 6, 2016 by DoubleJ Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) I mean I'm not exactly against it but I kinda have one concern.. how can we reliably have the very last screenshot of the ladder of each month? It's still sort of trusting whoever provided the screenshot that it was the last situation before the fix. Unless some staff thing archives the information or sorts. Is that a thing? Staff pls respond. Edit: What would be your suggested point count with these? 2, 1, 0.5 for top 3 or something of sorts? Edited April 6, 2016 by OrangeManiac Arimanius and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
KingBowser Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I mean I'm not exactly against it but I kinda have one concern.. how can we reliably have the very last screenshot of the ladder of each month? It's still sort of trusting whoever provided the screenshot that it was the last situation before the fix. Unless some staff thing archives the information or sorts. Is that a thing? Staff pls respond. Well isnt there gonna be a reward system for those player, I feel they would make an announcement somewhere or a listing. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Well isnt there gonna be a reward system for those player, I feel they would make an announcement somewhere or a listing. I'm pretty out of the loop in regards to what they're going to do with it, but this is what I thought was going to happen Link to comment
gbwead Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I like the idea of rewarding top ranked players of the leaderboard, but I really don't see how. Ranked Matchmaking looks like a King of the Hill game to me. The person that last the longer at the top should be the most rewarded imo. If someone gets rank 1 at the very last second and was at the bottom of the leaderboard for the entire month, rewarding that person more than someone that was consistantly at rank 1 would not be reprentative of the leaderboard of that month. I also feel that ranked matchmaking is something new and we still don't know/realise how it works yet. We should at least wait for the first reset before rewarding people XD Arimanius, BlackJovi and DrCraig 3 Link to comment
XPLOZ Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Imo the reward should be, in addition to the Battle points, a seeding system for the monthly tournaments that will be made. Put simply, the 1st of the rankings will face at round 1 the 64th (if this is a tournament of 64 men ofc)... ... Then, the 1st and the 2nd will be able to face each other at finals only. It gives some kind of merit to the players that are high in the rankings, but a very good player who didn't scrub ranked battles will still be able to shine in a harder bracket. gbwead 1 Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/62526-spring-fever-series-qualifier-1-sunday-april-3rd/+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/60745-doubles-hype-train-3-february-6th/+1 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/25623-psychological-warfare-6v6-ou/?hl=drowzee+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/25968-oceanic-tourney/+2 https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/10228-official-pokemon-world-tournament-junior-cup-results-and-post-discussion/+2 pls add me now thx <3 (pretty sure im missing a couple 2nd places too) EDIT: Removed quiz tournament and togepi cup seeing as they dont count apparantly (even tho togepi is a legit tier with official tournaments every month) That last link is worth 1 point. Quiz tourney is considered a gimmick and togepi cup should count though. DoctorPBC 1 Link to comment
DrCraig Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Nothing on the line? Lol ok There's like 10 players who care scattered from 1 to 20 and the rest are migrants from vermillion If the ranked matchmaking had some weight, more relevant people would give a shit Maybe adding a point system for this thread would be an incentive to play and then something would be on the line Edited April 6, 2016 by DrCraig Link to comment
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