ArieJ Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think I have fought that gladiator charizard in vermillion now that I see that. I read people's names but pay no attention really. :huh: Nice pokemon posts guys. ^_^ Been there, done that you got what you want now xD Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I made this set on my own and i don't recall ever seeing it around. It's been quite useful Also rip pain split, perish song, mean look, stab gengar bl0nde 1 Link to comment
OldKeith Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Sub, Growth, Surf, HP Electric Vaporeon: Sets up easily on Chansey+Dusclops. Also it is how I rekt Piata last night. Edited January 4, 2016 by OldKeith Robofiend, KaynineXL, JIceJDragon and 9 others 12 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sub, Growth, Surf, HP Electric Vaporeon: Sets up easily on Chansey+Dusclops. Also it is how I rekt Piata last night. What if the other person runs venusaur or ludicolo or porygon2 or quagsire Link to comment
Rache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm rather fond of this Houndoom for its ability to be an all-around nuisance. [spoiler] [/spoiler] Vaeldras, Parke, Bestfriends and 9 others 12 Link to comment
bl0nde Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) [spoiler] [/spoiler] calcs [spoiler] 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Low Kick (80 BP) vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 38-45 (22.2 - 26.3%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Focus Punch vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 72-85 (42.1 - 49.7%) <no one uses this but I like to look at worse case situations with my calcs 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 57-68 (33.3 - 39.7%) <still one of the best defenders for heracross, but will need wish support, knock off, or sleep talk set for the choice band heracross. 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Low Kick (20 BP) vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Weezing: 9-11 (5.2 - 6.4%) < (just a damage comparison to weezing vs. heracross) 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Focus Punch vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Weezing: 66-78 (38.5 - 45.6%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Heracross Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Weezing: 52-62 (30.4 - 36.2%) +2 248+ Atk Ursaring Return vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 135-159 (78.9 - 92.9%) <enough bulk to"counter" to stop some ursaring sweeps if your revenge killer is dead. 248+ Atk Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 67-81 (39.1 - 47.3%) <can help finish off metagross 0 Atk Gligar Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 72-86 (38.7 - 46.2%) <with stab EQ (this is vs. 248 HP metagross, they are often like 128 HP or something.) 248 Atk Choice Band Flygon Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Gligar: 60-72 (35 - 42.1%) <many dragon claw trigger happy flygon have met their doom to "counter" gligar. [/spoiler] The good: A different option for your heracross defender. Resist:fighting/bug/poison. Immune: ground/electric (tpunch). Can help annoy random things like magneton and venusaur depending on the moveset (hidden power) they have. Options for moves: Sky Uppercut. EQ, Wing Attack/Air cutter, Iron tail, Swords Dance (offense), knock off (utility), taunt (skarmory/forretress/weezing switch ins), toxic, etc. The bad: no instant recovery. If you want endurance you need to run rest with heal bell or wish pass or use a sleep talk set. 4x weak to ice Edited January 4, 2016 by bl0nde Arimanius and CaptainGrey 2 Link to comment
DrCraig Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 What if the other person runs venusaur or ludicolo or porygon2 or quagsireu kill them Kiliminati 1 Link to comment
Tyrone Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My Impish Miltank was created back when it was still UU. It won't work as well in the current OU meta. Use Heal Bell and Milk Drink to survive anything not being Choice Band Superpower. Body Slam for STAB and paralyze and Earthquake for Metagross and Arcanine mostly. [spoiler] [/spoiler] Arimanius and bl0nde 2 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) My Impish Miltank was created back when it was still UU. It won't work as well in the current OU meta. Use Heal Bell and Milk Drink to survive anything not being Choice Band Superpower. Body Slam for STAB and paralyze and Earthquake for Metagross and Arcanine mostly. [spoiler] [/spoiler] :( I was kinda hoping to get a peek at MetaGod for scouting purposes, oh well. Edited January 4, 2016 by KaynineXL Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My Impish Miltank was created back when it was still UU. It won't work as well in the current OU meta. Use Heal Bell and Milk Drink to survive anything not being Choice Band Superpower. Body Slam for STAB and paralyze and Earthquake for Metagross and Arcanine mostly. [spoiler][/spoiler] Could probably replace earthquake with curse and run it with magneton. Ghosts aren't extremely common so it can still win some match ups, have even seen miltank beat a metagross Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Could probably replace earthquake with curse and run it with magneton. Ghosts aren't extremely common so it can still win some match ups, have even seen miltank beat a metagross Exactly. The only phaser in OU right now is Skarmory which is a one shot pony with Magneton in the tier. Curse/Slam is impressive without Ghosts (Dusclops when?) Link to comment
OldKeith Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 What if the other person runs venusaur or ludicolo or porygon2 or quagsire you take them out first Kiliminati and DrCraig 2 Link to comment
dabatdino Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 basically, its a defensive support Granbull it also has a base 120 attack to actually hit hard as well even without any investment. and Tpunch is literally just for Gyarados lol cuz its annoying (it can take +2 waterfalls like a champ as well) bl0nde 1 Link to comment
bl0nde Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 [spoiler] [/spoiler] Ignore me not having 8 points in the spread, it's an old pokemon I never fixed the EV's. Anyway, I felt like this moveset might have a little viability last week in OU, but I wasn't expecting anything crazy successful. The general idea was to come in on anything with kind of weak special attack (without a psychic stab) and then drum when they needed to morning sun/wish or whatever and also pray that weezing didn't have haze. Then I put a shell bell on it thinking it would take hits due to lack of speed, but be able to shake many of them off by recovering HP from the kills. I found that it just didn't have the damage output I expected and shell bell doesn't recover as much HP as I thought it did. I think the moveset could also be improved. The idea at the time of the design was to use arm thrust to break through magneton subs and be a magneton check. Maybe it could work with some adjustments on the moveset and with some different team mates one day. KaynineXL and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
FNTCZ Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Oh dear.. this pokemon i wouln't trade for all the money in the server, because how awesome she and her background are; nowtimes it may not be the best idea, but in its time, oh god, 2010, the times where there was no breeding, whirlwind, roar swords dance and many others weren't implemented, neither was metagross and other fuckers, oh boy, this clef has countless tales to tell about those good old times :') [spoiler] [/spoiler] Edited January 9, 2016 by FNTCZ Vaeldras and bl0nde 2 Link to comment
bl0nde Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 I remember fighting those. +1 fun times. Link to comment
WurstPotato Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I want to post something [spoiler]This Bulba- I mean Poli is surprisingly not bad [/spoiler] bl0nde and DrCraig 2 Link to comment
anewhope Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 still working on it, not that great but its fun bl0nde 1 Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c Link to comment
Havsha Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Few more bad weird uncommon comps I have: [spoiler] Hipster Fly [spoiler] Usually choice banded, no, it doesn't really work well. [/spoiler] Aurora [spoiler] Actually is pretty good at stall, though I usually like to use encore to let me set up a bdrummer, so works in that way too. [/spoiler] Fur Ball [spoiler] Hits really hard with a choice band(Double Edge for the extra damage), pretty quick in NU, with ice punch she counters gligars pretty nicely. [/spoiler] Spirirtus [spoiler] Spiritus has carried me through many UU battles, disable paired with her ability and typing is pretty crippling to many physical UU Pokemon, especially Choice Banders. Wow is wow. Only problem I've really encountered is pursuit Swellow/Houndoom (Though for Houndoom I can usually escape by disabling pursuit if I win the speed tie.) [/spoiler] Fluff [spoiler] My 1 v 1 champ. Clearly he has his flaws with this move set, however, he is the king of stalls, and the nightmare for any opposing teams without a cleric. [/spoiler] Rooi [spoiler] One of my favourite poke in my LC team. Choice Banded she hits unbelievably hard, but she isn't exactly a ninjask in speed, and pretty frail. Still she is always fun for a laugh in NU, and often does surprisingly well. [/spoiler] Nox [spoiler] Saw another Noctowl earlier in this thread, tempted to switch ability and get rest like that one, but for now this seems to work. Great Sp Def, toxic stall with protect, Hyper Voice to hit through sub (and Stab) and Night Shade for reliable damage. [/spoiler] Shelly [spoiler] Shelly is bad not good, split defenses was probably my first mistake, however its a different set that I don't see often ever. Secret Power over Return/Bullet Seed, because I used her to make my secret base for an event. [/spoiler] Uguu Flower [spoiler] Surprisingly decent at tanking Sp Atks, hits harder than expected and lets me pass leech heal to another poke, nothing amazing but he does that job from time to time. [/spoiler] [/spoiler] These are just a few of my bad weird original Comps that I have. Hope you enjoyed them? Edited January 10, 2016 by Havsha bl0nde, ShadowGary, Arimanius and 1 other 4 Link to comment
GBush Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Here's a start to what I have: Adamant Bell [spoiler] [/spoiler] Vaeldras, KaynineXL and bl0nde 3 Link to comment
Sleepy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Too lazy to log on but Staryu Adamant 252 Attack 252 HP 31 Attack IV, rest at 0-1 Rapid Spin / Recover / Return / Toxic Rapid Spin sweep? DrCraig 1 Link to comment
bl0nde Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Too lazy to log on but Staryu Adamant 252 Attack 252 HP 31 Attack IV, rest at 0-1 Rapid Spin / Recover / Return / Toxic Rapid Spin sweep? I haven't seen it or tried it. calcs and a view of the whole team would be necessary to see what was the best moveset (imo) :) Link to comment
Sleepy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I haven't seen it or tried it. calcs and a view of the whole team would be necessary to see what was the best moveset (imo) :) I mean it was a troll moveset, but it could be legit? bl0nde and Robofiend 2 Link to comment
bl0nde Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 hehe, you're quoting me so I will respond. I looked at it 3 times and just couldn't see it at first. However, what I am looking at right now is they are going to send in pory2/chansey/umbreon on it 1st thing. Then you're going to toxic the special wall. If chansey doesn't have heal bell you're going to get a chance to toxic or hit something when the special wall switches out. I keep thinking it would be better if it was mixed because you could not only fake people out, but then take out weezing who absorbs your toxics. However, starmie are not easy to come by so I imagine it's just something you have laying around. So I just really don't know, but I've found great stuff by sending in things I thought would never work. I swept through a couple of salamence teams before the split with an HP ice pidgeot that I had just laying around. Sometimes it's worth a few tries just for the lols of it, or your case "troll" of it. :P Link to comment
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