KaynineXL Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Just now, RacheLucario said: The teams are pre-made. How many there are though, is something for you guys to figure out~ That's all I needed to know, thanks a lot. Arimanius and DaftCoolio 2 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 yeah teams change completely after round 3, but if you find a decent overall team i think its pretty eaz Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Re-updated. I believe the values given are not static now, and they change slightly each fight. With Amulet coin & no Payday Isle 5 1st PKMN Breeder Alize - $3024 -> $3717 -> $2638 2nd Painter Rayna - $1,8k -> $2160 -> $1507 3rd Lady Jacki - 6k -> $7,2k -> $7,8k 4th Lady Gillian - $5880 -> $7,2k -> $7,8k 5th Painter Celina - $1.8k -> $2124 -> $1560 6th Painter Daisy - $1.8k -> $2088 -> $1560 7th Youngster Destin - $1728 -> $2124 -> $1560 8th Birdkeeper Milo - $2646 -> $3132 -> $2,3k 9th Birdkeeper Chaz - $2646 -> $2970 -> $2338 10th Birdkeeper Harold - $2646 -> $3240 -> $2143 = $29,970 -> $35,955 -> $31,206 Isle 6 1st Juggler Edward - $4320 -> $5,4k -> $3770 2nd Hiker Earl - $3969 -> $4860 -> $3451 3rd Hiker Daryl - $4050 -> $4536 -> $3510 4th PokeManiac Hector - $5292 -> $6480 -> $4678 5th Ruin Maniac Stanly - $5184 -> $6372 -> $4678 6th Ruin Maniac Foster - $5400 -> $6480 -> $4601 7th Ruin Maniac Larry - $5292 -> $6480 -> $4678 = $33,507 -> $40,608 -> $29,366 Isle 7 1st Psychic Rodette - $2250 -> $2,7k -> $1885 2nd Psychic Dario - $2340 -> $2,7k -> $1950 3rd Aroma lady Miah - 3150 -> $3717 -> $2730 4th Juggler Mason - $4230 -> $5,4k -> $3835 5th PKMN Ranger Nicolas - $4131 -> $4860 -> $3275 6th PKMN Ranger Madeline - $4131 -> $4617 -> $3392 7th First Doubles Battle - $3150 -> $3780 -> $2365 8th Second Doubles Battle - $2808 -> $3240 -> $2338 9th Timer Evan - 4410 -> $5310 -> $3,9k 10th PKMN Ranger Jackson - $3969 -> $4860 -> $3333 11th PKMN Ranger Katelyn - $4212 -> $4374 -> $3392 12th Crush Girl Cyndy - $2592 -> $3024 -> $2261 13th Cooltrainer Leroy - $4050 -> $4860 -> $3275 14th Cooltrainer Michelle - $4050 -> $4536 -> $3292 = $ 49,473 -> $57,978 -> $41,323 All islands together = $112,950 -> $134,541 -> $101,895 Extra VS Seeker trainers Route 15 Beauty Olivia - $3132 -> $6480 -> $7020 Beauty Grace - $3132 -> $6480 -> $7020 Route 13 Beauty Sheila - $3132 -> $6480 -> $6902 Beauty Lola - $2916 -> $6480 -> $6902 = $12,312 -> $25,920 -> $27,844 It's bizarre how they raise all battles up by so much, then drop it so heavily all in one day. While almost every trainer now gives less than before the original update, overall you technically still get more since the Beauties on Route 15 & 13 were increased by an enormous amount, I definitely recommend people to do those now. The beauties on Isle 5 are also increased while every other NPC on that island decreased. If you were to just fight the 6 beauties, you could pick up roughly $43k in probably around 5 minutes. I'l probably do that now instead of doing the whole islands which got nerfed. @Desu@RacheLucario@Kyu@Darkshade What was the plan with this? Did you want to put most of the reward into few trainers as possible to make getting cash less grindy while still giving people the option to grind more, the less efficient and nerfed way? Edited July 23, 2016 by KaynineXL Liberalisme, BlackJovi, aftershocker and 2 others 5 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Oh and a big thanks to ShadowGary for helping me with all those above ^^^^ Your like reminded me lol @ShadowGary ShadowGary and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
ShadowGary Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, KaynineXL said: Oh and a big thanks to ShadowGary for helping me with all those above ^^^^ Your like reminded me lol @ShadowGary Lmao, all good brah <3 KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
Kyu Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 hour ago, KaynineXL said: What was the plan with this? Did you want to put most of the reward into few trainers as possible to make getting cash less grindy while still giving people the option to grind more, the less efficient and nerfed way? >implying devs know what they're doing SirYurop, BlackJovi, Arimanius and 4 others 7 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, Kyu said: >implying devs know what they're doing It's not too late Kyu, srs. You can still unban my alts Link to comment
Kyu Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 2 hours ago, KaynineXL said: What was the plan with this? Did you want to put most of the reward into few trainers as possible to make getting cash less grindy while still giving people the option to grind more, the less efficient and nerfed way? For real though: There weren't any intentional changes to the money rate in the 22/07 update, and we were severely confused for the past few days as to what changed. Earlier today we nerfed it into the ground while we investigated, and I took the opportunity to nerf Amulet Coin because Amulet Coin is a terrible item and I hate it. Turns out we fixed a bug back in June where parties for rematch NPCs wouldn't scale properly, which nobody noticed for the past 2 years. Most of the payouts were about the same, but now they're higher, which is how it should have always been. We'll push out another balance update for trainer NPC gain in a day or two when the next round of bug fixes are out, which should bring it back up to "about July 22nd" levels. BlackJovi, ShadowGary, KaynineXL and 1 other 4 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Kyu said: For real though: There weren't any intentional changes to the money rate in the 22/07 update, and we were severely confused for the past few days as to what changed. Earlier today we nerfed it into the ground while we investigated, and I took the opportunity to nerf Amulet Coin because Amulet Coin is a terrible item and I hate it. Turns out we fixed a bug back in June where parties for rematch NPCs wouldn't scale properly, which nobody noticed for the past 2 years. Most of the payouts were about the same, but now they're higher, which is how it should have always been. We'll push out another balance update for trainer NPC gain in a day or two when the next round of bug fixes are out, which should bring it back up to "about July 22nd" levels. Oh god, that'll be the 3rd time I update the whole islands payout in this guide within the past few days. I guess I should probably wait a few days after updates. Right now, I think payouts for rematches aren't static, you seem to get slightly different amounts every time, once the update hits in the next few days and the rewards are changed once again, will the rewards change slightly each time or be static? Edited July 24, 2016 by KaynineXL Link to comment
Kyu Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 38 minutes ago, KaynineXL said: Right now, I think payouts for rematches aren't static, you seem to get slightly different amounts every time, once the update hits in the next few days and the rewards are changed once again, will the rewards change slightly each time or be static? Yes, rematch rates vary depending on the party the NPC has. Either due to levels (which scale between [50-60]), or party count (which scales between [5-6]). No, we don't plan to change this behavior. Arimanius, KatheFoster, FuzzyRegirock and 1 other 4 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 lol kay devs jsut hate you. they nerfed the rich girls again. Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 updated the rewards for island trainers once more. Link to comment
rrnicknich Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Camper Ricky on route 6 is also a good kill. He has only a Blastoise and gives around $2000. For the time you spend, it's well worth it Suneet and Erotox 2 Link to comment
Erotox Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 7 hours ago, rrnicknich said: Camper Ricky on route 6 is also a good kill. He has only a Blastoise and gives around $2000. For the time you spend, it's well worth it i wanted to write the same :D Link to comment
ShinyMrT Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm using the Heart Scale Farming Method and i would highly recommend you are using a female Quagsire because the Luvdisc you will encounter are 75% of the time female. So they always get you with attract if you are using a male one. KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 1 hour ago, ShinyMrT said: I'm using the Heart Scale Farming Method and i would highly recommend you are using a female Quagsire because the Luvdisc you will encounter are 75% of the time female. So they always get you with attract if you are using a male one. Smart, on the other hand, you can also use a high level Chansey(they are always female) with covet because Chansey has very low attack and could never KO with Covet. Thief/Covet only breaks the item if the Pokemon is KO'd these days. Also.. I'v removed 'Money Per Hour' section and added 'Recommended Methods'. Check out the new recommended VS Seeker run which I much prefer over the standard islands run. Link to comment
WesleytJ Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Don't know if it's mentioned, but the Gamers, those old guys with the beards, give a shit load of money. Don't know all the places where the located, but on Route 11, East of Vermillion City, there are like 2 or 3 and give 6k each with Amulet Coin. Easy money. Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 hour ago, WesleytJ said: Don't know if it's mentioned, but the Gamers, those old guys with the beards, give a shit load of money. Don't know all the places where the located, but on Route 11, East of Vermillion City, there are like 2 or 3 and give 6k each with Amulet Coin. Easy money. They are already in my guide. Link to comment
WesleytJ Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Shame on me then :) KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
Demonid Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 This guide help me a lot to get my first 3 Million, thanks a lot. KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
LiquidFrost Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) So in this update, devs added the ability to rematch the Gym leaders in the Hoenn region. I did a run to see how much money they give and all. I think we should add Hoenn money grinding section to the guide as well now. Below is the breakdown. Dewford Gym Spoiler Money collected: $10672 (I forgot to bring my Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Heracross, Medicham, Machamp, Hitmonchan, Breloom, Hariyama Petalburg Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Tauros, Ursaring, Exploud, Zangoose, Blissey, Slaking Rustbro Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Golem, Omastar, Armaldo, Nosepass, Cradily, Aerodactyl Mauvile Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Ampharos, Manectric, Raichu, Electrode, Magneton, Lanturn Lavaridge Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Camerupt, Arcanine, Torkoal, Blaziken, Rapidash, Magcargo Fortree Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Altaria, Tropius, Skarmory, Peliper, Swellow, Gyarados Mossdeep Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Lunatone, Solrock, Slowkinng, Xatu, Gardevoir, Claydol Sootopolis Gym Spoiler Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Walrein, Whiscash, Slowking, Huntail, Lapras, Kingdra So, all the battles are doubles battle and all gym leaders give the same amount i.e $13440. Total money gain would be $107520 if you use the Amulet coin all the times. I really liked the whole thing, the battles are not much tough either and you can use your general 100 level pokemons to beat them. I personally used a Starmie, Dragonite, Gardevoir and Flygon. Starmie and Flygon will pretty much take care of all of them. Exp gain is very good as well, so you can put exp share on a pokemon to increase levels. Overall, I'd recommend doing it, it is not much time consuming except those mazes inside some of the gyms but we can get use to them in no time. Also the cool down would be 6 hours for this, right? Can anyone from staff confirm this? Edited August 19, 2016 by LiquidFrost formatting Arimanius, KaynineXL, LifeStyle and 1 other 4 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, LiquidFrost said: So in this update, devs added the ability to rematch the Gym leaders in the Hoenn region. I did a run to see how much money they give and all. I think we should add Hoenn money grinding section to the guide as well now. Below is the breakdown. Dewford Gym Hide contents Money collected: $10672 (I forgot to bring my Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Heracross, Medicham, Machamp, Hitmonchan, Breloom, Hariyama Petalburg Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Tauros, Ursaring, Exploud, Zangoose, Blissey, Slaking Rustbro Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Golem, Omastar, Armaldo, Nosepass, Cradily, Aerodactyl Mauvile Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Ampharos, Manectric, Raichu, Electrode, Magneton, Lanturn Lavaridge Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Camerupt, Arcanine, Torkoal, Blaziken, Rapidash, Magcargo Fortree Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Altaria, Tropius, Skarmory, Peliper, Swellow, Gyarados Mossdeep Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Lunatone, Solrock, Slowkinng, Xatu, Gardevoir, Claydol Sootopolis Gym Hide contents Money collected: $13440 (With Amulet coin) Doubles battle Level of pokemons: All 80 Pokemons used: Walrein, Whiscash, Slowking, Huntail, Lapras, Kingdra So, all the battles are doubles battle and all gym leaders give the same amount i.e $13440. Total money gain would be $107520 if you use the Amulet coin all the times. I really liked the whole thing, the battles are not much tough either and you can use your general 100 level pokemons to beat them. I personally used a Starmie, Dragonite, Gardevoir and Flygon. Starmie and Flygon will pretty much take care of all of them. Exp gain is very good as well, so you can put exp share on a pokemon to increase levels. Overall, I'd recommend doing it, it is not much time consuming except those mazes inside some of the gyms but we can get use to them in no time. Also the cool down would be 6 hours for this, right? Can anyone from staff confirm this? That's great. Thanks a lot for that mate. Will add it in a little while. So hyped for this new method of money :) LiquidFrost and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
Kimikozen Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 island 6 has a bunch of sturdy mons so it takes a little bit longer Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, Kimikozen said: island 6 has a bunch of sturdy mons so it takes a little bit longer Damn, nice call. I'l have to check it out. Link to comment
Kimikozen Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, KaynineXL said: Damn, nice call. I'l have to check it out. From the quick island run I just did, sturdy doesn't add a huge amount of time onto the actual run (Probably a few K loss). But, if you are using the starmie that you suggested in the original post, the sturdy mons will hit you hard with EQ and explosion etc so it requires a few potions or other mons to complete the run. Also forretress has sturdy on island 7 too. Link to comment
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