DoubleJ Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Telf said: 10 tiers is also bad 10 tiers was great. You just needed wins. Arimanius, Kizhaz, fredrichnietze and 6 others 9 Link to comment
Moetal Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Need tcg and vgc tier. ShadowGary, xXBlu3BreathXx and RysPicz 3 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Moetal said: vgc xXBlu3BreathXx, ShadowGary and DoubleJ 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Gen 7 OU vs VGC17 going to be the biggest shitfest argument preseason. I can feel it. Link to comment
Moetal Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 We need LC also SweeTforU and fredrichnietze 2 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Eggplant said: Idk, I think they're fun. I personally don't think there is anything fun about making the PSL less competitive. Managers are supposed to have an equal chance to acquire the players they need for their line up. They don't have an equal chance to do so when trades are allowed. Not competitive. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, gbwead said: I personally don't think there is anything fun about making the PSL less competitive. Managers are supposed to have an equal chance to acquire the players they need for their line up. They don't have an equal chance to do so when trades are allowed. Not competitive. How do they not? 1. Trades allow managers to improve upon their roster 2. Every manager can offer on any player from any team (equal chance) Again, we just need to tweak the system to avoid abuse. Link to comment
Telf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: Gen 7 OU vs VGC17 going to be the biggest shitfest argument preseason. I can feel it. theres gonna be no argument because vgc xXBlu3BreathXx and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
Moetal Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Telf said: theres gonna be no argument because vgc There's going to be no argument because WHY NOT BOTH Link to comment
Telf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, Moetal said: There's going to be no argument because vgc i agree Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, DoubleJ said: How do they not? 1. Trades allow managers to improve upon their roster 2. Every manager can offer on any player from any team (equal chance) Again, we just need to tweak the system to avoid abuse. 1. Trades only benefit certain managers since trades are only done between 2 parties. A trade benefits only the managers involved. Sometimes a trade benefits only one of the managers involved, since the other one is not so bright. PSL is a competition. When a manager improves its roster, this is bad for other managers. 2. Every manager can offer on any player from any team is not equal chance since the manager recieving the offer is free to refuse to offer. Let's make this really simple. After the initial auction, managers all get their line-up. Some line-up are stronger than others. Do you think allowing trades advantages the manager with the best line-up? Arimanius 1 Link to comment
Moetal Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Telf said: i agree Vgcvgcvgcvgcvgcvgc RysPicz and xXBlu3BreathXx 2 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Moetal said: Vgcvgcvgcvgcvgcvgc VGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGCVGC Where is @xXBlu3BreathXx when you need him Edited November 22, 2016 by RysPicz xXBlu3BreathXx 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, Moetal said: We need LC also Well, LC is as respectable of a tier as Doubles, so to be fair we should have both LC and Doubles or none of these tiers. JIceJDragon, Guerinf and Suneet 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gbwead said: Well, LC is as respectable of a tier as Doubles, so to be fair we should have both LC and Doubles or none of these tiers. Having none of them sounds good c u @SweeTforU Edited November 22, 2016 by BlackJovi DiDi, Guerinf, gbwead and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Telf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, BlackJovi said: Having none of them sounds good infact i think every tier should just be vgc xXBlu3BreathXx 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, BlackJovi said: Having none of them sounds good Silence means consent. I'm glad we all agree. RysPicz, Suneet and BlackJovi 3 Link to comment
Telf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 vote me for host and we can make psl vgc again! RysPicz and xXBlu3BreathXx 2 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Telf said: vote me for host and we can make psl vgc again! I dont want a shit host LifeStyle 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Telf said: vote me for host and we can make psl vgc again! Are you removing trades? RysPicz 1 Link to comment
Telf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, gbwead said: Are you removing trades? yes if that gets me votes RysPicz and gbwead 2 Link to comment
gbwead Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Telf said: yes if that gets me votes best host ever confirmed Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 My vote would go for Moe Link to comment
Moetal Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If I am host, there will be no credits, no trades, no substitutions, and no Kanzo. RysPicz and gbwead 2 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 14 minutes ago, gbwead said: 1. Trades only benefit certain managers since trades are only done between 2 parties. A trade benefits only the managers involved. Sometimes a trade benefits only one of the managers involved, since the other one is not so bright. PSL is a competition. When a manager improves its roster, this is bad for other managers. 2. Every manager can offer on any player from any team is not equal chance since the manager recieving the offer is free to refuse to offer. Let's make this really simple. After the initial auction, managers all get their line-up. Some line-up are stronger than others. Do you think allowing trades advantages the manager with the best line-up? Why are trades only between two managers? Just because we haven't seen that blockbuster three team trade yet doesn't mean it can't happen. Like I've said before, a managers job does not end after the auction. You don't get to just draft a team, do that hand motion where you swipe them up and down (can't think of a name for it), then walk away. Auctions are notoriously unpredictable and a team that ends up with a less than stellar auction should have the means to improve their team. If this hinders other managers who are choosing not to be active on the trade market then so be it, it's their loss. Again the biggest problem this season was the timing of the trade deadline. If it had been after week 5 instead of week 6, Riga wouldn't have blown up his team because we were still in contention at that time. Easy fix for next season. I'm loving your objective analysis of PSL and all the suggestions you're providing, as a former host I can assure you it's extremely helpful for Jj, but I do disagree with you strongly on the trades issue DoubleJ, Draekyn, xXBlu3BreathXx and 1 other 4 Link to comment
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