Gunthug Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, fredrichnietze said: the best part imo of the psl was it was a tournament for everyone. everyone donates and everyone mostly plays and the teams are mixed up with a few really good players and some not as good ones like any sports team. the team works together and works together as a team to make all their members better and lend comps and talk strategy and the community as a whole gets better and everyone has fun. your changing the spirit of the psl from a community event to a an elite event only some people can get into. you want a reason? appeal to greed. people wont donate to a tourney they can only be spectators of. your pool of donators will shrink because players will assume they wont get in and you dont spend 10 hours grinding for a spectator sport. i rather appeal to peoples sense of fair play and fun and community. please dont turn this into master of masters teams version. edit: and the idea of a second tourney for a pool of recruits is not a substitute for the psl for the 100 something people left out. that's an insult. "well take your money but we dont think your good enough to play here have a consolation prize" Who cares about the cash prize, or getting less donators? Less people means more glory for the winners. And all those things you listed that was the "best part of psl" will all still be there, youre just talking out of your ass now. "everyone donates" - not true. "everyone mostly plays" - also not true, "teams mixed up with a few really good players and some not as good ones" - that won't change. "team works together and works together as a team" a little redundant but still. won't change. "lending comps, talking strategy, community as a whole getting better" - won't change. Where are you even getting all this shit? And the second tourney for a pool of recruits isn't meant to be a substitute, it's meant to be a supplement. If people are insulted by that, they don't have to sign up BlackJovi and NikhilR 2 Link to comment
gbwead Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 There is nothing elite about PokeMMO Doubles, so if we drop 2 tiers I guess rip Doubles ^^. Link to comment
Bilburt Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 get glory winning tournaments, dont turn the one thing where people like me have a chance at winning into some elite bullshit kevola 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, Bilburt said: get glory winning tournaments, dont turn the one thing where people like me have a chance at winning into some elite bullshit Don't lie, we know you play more than Doubles. Link to comment
Bilburt Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, gbwead said: Don't lie, we know you play more than Doubles. u got me gbwead 1 Link to comment
kevola Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Out of curiosity, why was there a vote? Suneet, Zymogen and aftershocker 3 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gunthug said: Who cares about the cash prize, or getting less donators? Less people means more glory for the winners. And all those things you listed that was the "best part of psl" will all still be there, youre just talking out of your ass now. "everyone donates" - not true. "everyone mostly plays" - also not true, "teams mixed up with a few really good players and some not as good ones" - that won't change. "team works together and works together as a team" a little redundant but still. won't change. "lending comps, talking strategy, community as a whole getting better" - won't change. Where are you even getting all this shit? And the second tourney for a pool of recruits isn't meant to be a substitute, it's meant to be a supplement. If people are insulted by that, they don't have to sign up i have said all im going to say. im done arguing, i'll just sit this one out. but since it's "you cant play and if you dont like it dont play in protest" it's not like anyone will notice the protest. dead game anyways am i right? Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, kevola said: Out of curiosity, why was there a vote? I wanted general input on what people wanted. If I was totally undecided on an issue like BO1/BO3 for doubles, I left it up to the community to decide which one it would be. But for the 8 tiers vs 10 tiers question, I formed an opinion after the poll was posted and took a stance, that happened to be against the popular opinion. kevola and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
kevola Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, BurntZebra said: I wanted general input on what people wanted. If I was totally undecided on an issue like BO1/BO3 for doubles, I left it up to the community to decide which one it would be. But for the 8 tiers vs 10 tiers question, I formed an opinion after the poll was posted and took a stance, that happened to be against the popular opinion. Eh, fair enough I guess. Why do you feel like 8 tiers is better? Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, kevola said: Eh, fair enough I guess. Why do you feel like 8 tiers is better? It's been discussed a fair amount in this thread and the donation thread if you want to see everyone's viewpoints on it. Link to comment
Rigamorty Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Bilburt said: get glory winning tournaments, dont turn the one thing where people like me have a chance at winning into some elite bullshit But regular tournaments involve setting aside a couple hours of time when they're pre determined to happen, psl is an event people like me can make work around my own schedule instead of being forced on at a certain time, so it's way better than tournaments in that regard. And having it be more exclusive means I can feel better about myself after if my winrate is good. Granted I personally prefer 10 tiers just because it seems more fun to me to have more people, catering to bad players isn't what I'd want the reason to be for it to happen. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I don't know if it's because @BurntZebra isn't as good looking as I am or if it's cuz you bums are broke now, but we need more donations. In the last two seasons we were spoiled with pots greater than 50M, which allowed me to host a lot of small side events, give out end of season awards, and even higher a sig maker. Without that excess cash, we may not have that opportunity. So reach into your pockets, and toss my man "burntzebrah" a little donation if you will. It's for the greater good. Now I'm not asking for a 50M pot, I'm just asking for a bit more than what we've got going on now. Don't be shy fam. @Torinnnnn @Arimanius @Rigamorty @Draekyn @Parke @Noad @Bestfriends @DoctorPBC @fredrichnietze @SpartacusGD Now go tell your friends and tell your wives, it's time to get this thing going! Arimanius, SirAlbert, Laz and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Parke Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, DoubleJ said: I don't know if it's because @BurntZebra isn't as good looking as I am or if it's cuz you bums are broke now, but we need more donations. In the last two seasons we were spoiled with pots greater than 50M, which allowed me to host a lot of small side events, give out end of season awards, and even higher a sig maker. Without that excess cash, we may not have that opportunity. So reach into your pockets, and toss my man "burntzebrah" a little donation if you will. It's for the greater good. Now I'm not asking for a 50M pot, I'm just asking for a bit more than what we've got going on now. Don't be shy fam. @Torinnnnn @Arimanius @Rigamorty @Draekyn @Parke @Noad @Bestfriends @DoctorPBC @fredrichnietze @SpartacusGD Now go tell your friends and tell your wives, it's time to get this thing going! Lmao wtf, I mailed 2.5M to Zebs alt as my donation, dunno if he hasnt seen/updated it yet, but I sent it about a week ago. @BurntZebra did you get it or nah?? Telf, SweeTforU and DoubleJ 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Those events sucked gbwead and LifeStyle 2 Link to comment
Telf Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 zeb is my favorite, he was like "i want to get the pubic's opinion to see what they want and show them that I am a people's host, show them I am a real nice guy but, then Im going to fuck their opinion and do what I want anyway." legit love it DoubleJ and Suneet 2 Link to comment
Kimikozen Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 @DoubleJ @BurntZebra I have a donation coming soon PS anyone who doesn't like 8 tier rule because they don't think they will play should really try learning SM OU. Tier is basically open/free right now and the ladder is great for experience. Also hmu on showdown/forums I will play SM with you. I may open SM exclusive wager thread soon. BurntZebra, DoubleJ and Arimanius 3 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I'll let agent K from men in black explain my disdain for polls and groupthink "A person is smart. People are dumb" kevola, DoubleJ, Draekyn and 2 others 5 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 32 minutes ago, Parke said: Lmao wtf, I mailed 2.5M to Zebs alt as my donation, dunno if he hasnt seen/updated it yet, but I sent it about a week ago. @BurntZebra did you get it or nah?? I didn't get it on burntzebrah/burntzebra. I don't have any mail from you currently in my mail box. Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, BurntZebra said: I didn't get it on burntzebrah/burntzebra. I don't have any mail from you currently in my mail box. rip parke Suneet 1 Link to comment
Parke Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, SweeTforU said: rip parke Its aight, I mailed another 1M anyways and he defo got it that time Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: @fredrichnietze Now go tell your friends and tell your wives, it's time to get this thing going! On 5/24/2017 at 2:19 PM, fredrichnietze said: im done arguing, i'll just sit this one out. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 @fredrichnietze what we arguing about? Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, DoubleJ said: @fredrichnietze what we arguing about? nothing im done arguing =p Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, fredrichnietze said: nothing im done arguing =p Talk to me babe. Link to comment
dsteel23 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, DoubleJ said: Now I'm asking for a 50M pot @Parke & I pushed the 30m boundary. lets keep @ it rip them 2.5m kevola and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
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