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Damn I go away for a bit and you guys already find a new winter ;_;

Hey guys, I'll start a new job as a civil servant and its at some other city. They just told me we'll start to work in 5days so im in rush to move my apartment. Long story short i'll be offline for a week or less. Hopefully be active again before 21th Agustos (which is 99% likely) and join that NU tourney. See you guys later :)

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Event Description: Some Pokemon have escaped from the Hoenn Daycare! The old daycare lady needs your help to find them before their owners come back! Date & Time: Date: Friday, August 14th Time: 5PM EST/ 9PM GMT Venue: Hoenn Daycare, West of Mauville City, Channel 7 Prize: 100,000 PokeYen per round Rules: Event information will be broadcast over Global chat. There will be 10 rounds in which a Pokemon's species and nature will be given by the event host. Players will then search for and capture a Pokemon that fits the requirements, and the first to show it in Normal chat at the event venue will win a point for that round. The winner of a round will receive 100,000 PokeYen for their trouble. Pokemon must be obtained after the required Pokemon is revealed in chat. Any attempts to cheat will result in disqualification. Host: Zehkar & Eggplant GM: Noad

Zam S after Chansey, Umb and P2 bans. So few things can stop it, it's speed is insane, makes the most powerful, reliable and efficient lategame sweeper there currently is in the meta, and the most potent ban material. I just wonder why people don't use it in OU anymore after lax bliss bans. Ride On idk yet didn't saw many UU matches, played only few, I need more experience for some input.

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Congratulations to Rendiz for the 1st place today and Eloyriptor placed 2nd ! Thanks everybody for coming and thanks to my refs :) ! BRACKET

MONOTYPE TOURNAMENT THURSDAY, 20TH AUGUST Thanks Noad for the Banner <3 _________________________________________________________________ Explanation: For this tournament you will need to make a monotype team, this can include dual type Pokemon as long as one of their types is consistent with the type you have chosen. For example; Quagsire, Starmie, Lanturn and Tentacool would make up a monotype team because they all share water typing. Details: 32 Players Unlimited Reserves 4v4 OU Monotype Single Battle Level 50 Date + Time: Date: Thursday, 20th August Time: 4:00 PM EDT | GMT 8:00 PM Registration: Registration will open 10 minutes prior to the tournament. To register post an IGN in this thread. You may only register one person per user. Edited posts will NOT be accepted as a valid registration. Location: Silph CO, Channel 7 Clauses: Sleep/OHKO/Pristine/Species/Hax Item/Evasion/Bag Item/Time/Self KO/Item Clause List of Clauses and what they mean List of Banned Pokemon Dragonite Salamence Tyranitar Wobbuffet Snorlax Blissey Banned Moves Baton Pass Torment No longer broken 1st Place Prize: Shiny Gift Swellow // Your choice of nature IVs 25/25/25/25/25/31 Eggmove Pursuit AND 1,000,000 Pokeyens OR 20,000 Battle Points 2nd Place Prize: 10,000 Battle Points OR 500 Reward Points Notes: You may AFK timeout your opponent as soon as the button appears. This clause will not be in effect for the Semi Finals or Final round, where you will only be allowed to press it after the referee gives permission to do so. Disconnecting during a match when result in a DQ. Do not block the Staff running the Event. If you disregard requests for you to unblock staff members then you will be disqualified. Volpi Clause (requesting to change channels for your matches) will not be allowed for this tournament. Entrants are encouraged to uncheck "Render Overworld in Battle". (Menu -> Settings -> Video). Once your match is called you will have 10 minutes to report to the table. No time extensions will be given. Host: Captaingrey GM: Noad Refs: xSparkie ______________________________________________________________________

Pure yen is at it's lowest value in the shiny market. The majority of shiny traders now refuse to take yen for any decent shiny. Now if you're a comp player selling a shiny it's obviously a different story. Not it isn't. Using shiny tentacruel, which is an undesired, common shiny doesn't exactly hold much merit. I personally, refuse to take yen for any desired shiny since I have no use for it. The days when Yen>>Decent Shinys are long gone. Personally if I was the OP I would take all offers and simply choose the one that holds the most value. FYI the last Aron sold for 60million to a guy that was banned for RMT only days later. So not the best example to use for past value.

Golem with hp and def investment isn't bad. It can even resist hp grass from timid ninetales. It would also be a great option to counter magmar. Well Solrock got an instant recovery move, so it isn't that bad. A choice band user stuck on a 70 base power steel move with 90% accuracy is in a bad position though. Sableye has access to Recover and Fake out so a 3HKO is not a big problem. He can simply heal himself or switch on an electric type (most of them have the static ability that can completly destroy Fearow). They might not be used a lot, but they are certainly not unusable. You also forget pokemons like Shuckle, Relicanth, Kabutops and Metang that can switch in on Fearow quite easily. [hr] With 100 base speed, Fearow is also suceptible to be revenge killed by several pokemons; Crobat, Electrode, Rapidash and Scyther just to name a few. Fearow got maybe better hp/def/spdef stats than his bro Swellow, but he remains incredibly squishy with exploitable weaknesses (rock, ice and electric). He also doesn't have the guts ability which makes him vulnerable to status and Toxic seems to be very popular in NU right now. There is not a lot of wil-o-wisp but it is not a dead move, especially with haunter's arrival in the tier. [hr] This might not very important, but lets not forget that the move "torment" will be fixed soon and it destroys Choice Band users.

Congratulations to KaynineXL for coming in 1st place and Elcoolio following up in 2nd. Both of these players will receive a Champions Club invitation to the final bracket. Also, congratulations to eloyriptor for coming in 3rd Place and receiving a reserve spot for the final bracket. Qualifier #2's Bracket: http://challonge.com/PokeMMOCC2

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I don't think you can instaban Rhydon though. I'm a little bit repeating myself now here but whatever. In my opinion whether Rhydon belongs in UU tier or not is mostly about how viable fast hyper offense is in the UU tier. Against a fast Hyper Offensive team (especially ones containing a lot of special offense) Rhydon will do absolutely nothing against them. It might not even get a hit off. So if there is a reason, an actual reason outside of Rhydon's existence to run speedy offense in the UU tier this actually makes Rhydon balance things if anything. It isn't a sure shot to bring Rhydon in your team because you may face a lot of teams that will beat Rhydon like it's nothing. I think it should be reflected that how well does fast offensive teams work against Rhydonless teams. If highly fast offense outside of Rhydon's existence is unviable then the way Rhydon punishes the bulky side of the meta is just ridiculously insane. But we can't ban Rhydon under offensive characteristics of "sweeping with little effort" if the actual UU metagame is something that can outspeed Rhydon and not getting swept by it at all due to the lack of its speed. I'm aware Rhydon can help its sweeping with stuff like Substitute but honestly if you don't have any coverage move on Rhydon in order to break the Sub then you're bad and if you get predicted then it's a bit of a "get gud" then. I hate to quote Smogon too much here but Rampardos has been NU in every Smogon's tier ever since it was made and it has 165 base attack and 58 speed and arguably one of the best abilities in the game. So banning just something offensively due to just attack and not speed isn't just right.

Good to see who are the scum of this game.

Wonder if you finally got one. Update me

oh thanks homie

Yeah, good point there - my point was less about DE - since you're likely to get a 2HKO anyway and more about Drill Peck. I also should have done the original calcs at lvl 50 but oh well: 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 58-69 (31.1 - 37%) -- 69.9% chance to 3HKO Again - no one uses these pokemon because they're for the most part unviable. Kabutops might *seem* like a good check, but it can't come in on Double Edge more than once. Metang, while seeming like it'd be entirely useless in NU... is actually entirely useless in NU. The fact that you have to list off 5+ things that are rarely used as possible checks/counters to Fearow is just more evidence that it should go. It's the same argument that I made above - none of the pokemon that people point at as "great Fearow checks" actually do anything for your team, given how easily checked they are by the rest of the metagame. Even the somewhat viable checks like Solrock, Sableye and Aggron can't really do anything to a lot of the metagame besides spam Toxic. 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kabutops: 57-68 (42.2 - 50.3%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Metang: 60-71 (35.9 - 42.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Relicanth: 48-57 (27.4 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (fast CB) If you're suggesting that people run Bulky Relicanth, Impish Kabutops, or Relaxed Metang, that's just further proof that you have to build checks specifically to check Fearow and nothing else.

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mfw haxed in 3/3 matches tonight after spending days training comps now I remember why I rip'd for a year

Main problem is that all of the fearow counters are extremely specific. While Zangoose is threatened by Hitmontop's Mach Punch, Haunter, Sableye (ok, not that much, but it stops the CB set from spam sweeping) and a few other pokes, Fearow is only afraid of rock/steels. Let me also point out that Stantler's speed tier is bad, Iron Tail is bad, and Megahorn is ok but nowhere near as good as STAB Drill Peck. If Stantler were good, people would use it, and right now they just don't because there are better pokes available (like Fearow, for instance). That said, it's time for a good ol wall'o'calcs, Fred style: Hitmontop -1 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hitmontop: 152-182 (50 - 59.8%) -- 81.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Blastoise 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 165-195 (45.5 - 53.8%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Drill Peck vs. 168 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 109-130 (31.9 - 38.1%) -- 95.8% chance to 3HKO (Note that Blastoise cannot 1HKO Fearow) Solrock 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 144-170 (41.8 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Golem 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golem: 91-108 (30.2 - 35.8%) -- 37.5% chance to 3HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Steel Wing vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golem: 144-170 (47.8 - 56.4%) -- 84% chance to 2HKO Sableye 252 Atk Choice Band Fearow Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 132-156 (43.4 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery And of course there is Aggron, Magcargo, and Mawile, none of whom are ever used in NU. I think it's pretty obvious that Fearow should be quickbanned, not even sure how we're having debate from one member of the community - it's that obviously strong. The main problem is that Fearow is incredibly good - it sweeps most offensive teams without fear and if combined with other normal-spammers like Zangoose, can be saved until late game when its checks are worn down to come in and sweep. Additionally, all of Fearow's counters are extremely specific: it's not like Aggron is truly useful in the standard metagame (>why no one uses it), it's just a really good Fearow check. Additionally, it doesn't punish players for using Fearow - it's poorly matched up against every phys wall in the tier and has abundant weaknesses (notice that the same argument goes for Mawile, Magcargo, Solrock and defensive Sableye, to some degree). This is a problem similar to what happens with Tyranitar in OU: it's checked by something like Breloom or Hitmontop with max HP/Defs, but neither poke can do anything for team but hang out and wait to counter the threat it's built specifically to stop. The end result of something like this is a tier where every team has Fearow+Aggron because Fearow's awesome and Aggron's the only surefire check. Frankly, keeping Fearow in NU is on the border of flying in the face of TC policy as we know it and/or exploiting TC power to win matches by refusing to ban something that's obviously Uber. Send this thing to BL2 already.

That's not how tiering by usage works, the only ways it could be moved up to OU is if people magically start using it in OU and it goes up by usage, or if it's deemed too powerful/centralizing/toxic for UU and it's not at this point in time

and 125 base stat in atk. Stantler only has 95 cmon ...

Comparing Fearow to Stantler or Zangoose seems unfair. Sure Stantler has a higher attack and intimidate but it lacks that duel stab, and also lacks the switch in options fearow has. Zangoose pretty much requires an sd to do anything, thus fearow is just outright better.

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Welcome to the UU Viability Thread. If you do not know what a viability thread entails read further. A viability thread has as purpose to put Pokémon into 'ranks', by lack of a better term. In the UU viability rankings we base our rankings on how viable certain Pokémon in UU are. Discussion is encouraged and remember that you are always entitled to your opinion but forget not to be respectful to other community members. There won't be a split between offensive/defensive/support Pokémon as this is a general viability thread. Meaning offensive and defensive Pokémon can fit into the same rank without utilizing the same role. Lastly, this thread also functions as a discussion about the UU metagame. By all means do not hold back on discussing your thoughts; how you think can go better, or how you think everything is already going well. Bringing underrated Pokémon up for discussion is also part of a viability thread discussion. When proposing a ranking change please post reasoning behind your argument to strengthen your position as well as to make sure we avoid the thread being littered or derailed. Current Hot Topics Overall discussion regarding Pokemon viability in the new meta Resources for Discussion PokeMMO Official Tier Lists and Usage Statistics UU Tier Discussion Request Thread Pokémon Damage Calculator *May be subject to mechanic differences Smogon Pokedex *May be subject to mechanic differences PokeMMO Speed Tiers Lv50 Tiering Etiquette Guide Other Viability Threads: Doubles Viability OU Viability NU Viability _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PokeMMO UU Viability Ranking *Pokemon are listed in alphabetical order per their rank *To find a Pokemon's specific ranking, use the Find function through Ctrl+F S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. These Pokemon are able to perform a variety of roles very effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits. These Pokemon define the metagame. S Rank: A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the UU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits. These Pokemon exert a strong presence in the metagame. A+ Rank: Exeggutor Manectric Scizor Slowking Cradily A Rank: Altaria Armaldo Hitmonlee Jynx Meganium Miltank Omastar Sneasel Swellow Tentacruel B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the UU metagame. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential. These Pokemon exert an above average presence in the metagame. B+ Rank: Azumarill Clefable Crawdaunt Crobat Donphan Muk Nidoking Quagsire Vileplume B Rank: Absol Ampharos Blastoise Hypno Lanturn Lapras Misdreavus Pikachu Steelix C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are mediocre in the UU metagame, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon. These Pokemon exert a below average presence in the metagame. C Rank: Claydol Electabuzz Electrode Gligar Grumpig Hitmontop Kabutops Ninetales Pinsir Sharpedo D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are highly mediocre in the UU metagame, but are viable enough to justify their use on select teams. These Pokemon are only capable of doing their specific task and fail at doing anything more than that. Pokemon from this rank have multiple crippling flaws that prevent them from being successful a majority of the time, and are often severely outclassed because of it. These Pokemon exert a poor presence in the metagame. D Rank: Note 1: Please point out any errors I have not tended to such as spelling errors and what not. Note 2: I reserve the right to make changes to the viability thread's ranking understand certain circumstances. An inactive thread or a thread with little input won't provide much use to the competitive community in an ever-changing meta. When I need to step in to "revive" the thread, I will. Big shout out and thank you to ThinkNice for doing a huge part in setting this thread up!

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Common Sets: Calm Mind Item: Lum Berry Nature: Timid / Modest Ability: Synchronize EVs: 252 SpAtt / 4 SpDef / 252 Speed Calm Mind Psychic Signal Beam / Shadow Ball Hidden Power Fire / Substitute Alakazam is a glass cannon that can absolutely destroy an unprepared team. Its impressive speed and outstanding special attack stat can truly obliterate most threats and even most checks. The scary thing about Zam is that its known checks in UU, Houndoom and Scizor, just don't stack up. Signal Beam at +1 can 2HKO Houndoom and if you carry HP Fire, Scizor is rendered useless outside of CB Quick Attack. Otherwise Pursuit from either of these would be an incredible option at removing a powerful threat. Currently, HP Fire is exceptionally rare, but once this upcoming update hits, we'll face the fact that HP Fire will be far more easier to obtain and far more common. Swellow earns a special mention as a check as it can easily revenge kill Alakazam when using a Jolly nature with Return/Double-Edge, and it can even guarantee the kill when Zam is around 60% health with CB Pursuit. Wall teams, stall teams, and offensive teams all fair somewhat well against Alakazam, but if for some reason Zam hits +2 and you lack any options to stop it, well like with most offensive sweepers you will lose. Offensive Characteristic A Pokémon is uber if, in common battle conditions, it is capable of sweeping through a significant portion of teams in the metagame with little effort. So with this in mind, the UU Tier Council would like to hear what the community has to say about this Pokemon.

Craig you fucking savage lmfao. But anyways Xatu might need to get moved down imo, with so much houndoom and dusclops running around (soon, now?) It just cant shine as well as it used to be. Probably B/B- now

No new regions, forget about it

I get Atk=31 using that formula edit: Math.Ceiling(((Attack Value / nature) - 5) * 100 / level) - ((2 * base attack) + (ev attack / 4)) Math.Ceiling(((41 / 1.0) - 5) * 100 / 27) - ((2 * 49) + (20 / 4)) Math.Ceiling((41 - 5) * 100 / 27) - (98 + 5) Math.Ceiling(36 * 100 / 27) - (98 + 5) Math.Ceiling(133.33) - (98 + 5) 134 - 103 = 31

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On the flip side, if Rhydon is single-handedly making stall unviable then it's not right to keep it. A prime example of this would be Gen VI Greninja, who threatened offensive teams so much that it was no longer viable to run them. As a result, the viability of stall was artificially inflated to the point of being the dominant playstyle, and it was mainly because you needed to bring Chansey to stop Greninja from running over your other walls. Also, you're just wrong when you say: Rhydon can switch in on offensive as well as defensive threats without fear (especially the bulky variant) and proceed to land attacks. Any Normal/Flying Choice Bander (mainly Swellow, and mainly to deal with Alakazam, another hard-to-check poke for fast offense teams) is going to bait Rhydon super hard. Other bulky/offensive teammates like Kangaskhan are really useful to prevent the rest of your offense from getting rolled by Zam or Manectric, but they're also Rhydon bait. Even Houndoom, who's extremely useful for offense, can't really do anything to Rhydon without HP Grass or Dbond, neither of which have much utility outside of checking Rhdyon. If you build a team that's comprised of something like Xatu, Alakazam, Manectric, Omastar/Walrein, Donphan, fast Exegg (or something) you will give Rhydon few chances to sweep, but you'll sacrifice a lot of protection against other common threats (DD Crawdaunt, Opposing Calm Minders, etc.) - making it questionable if you should even run such a team in the first place because it's overly specific to dealing with Rhydon. Similarly, Rhydon's obviously overcentralizing if: Is insinuating every poke on your team needs to have a move to break the sub and prevent Rhydon from setting up, while somehow also being unafraid of the CB set. I rest my case.

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Ofc. No. Godly.

Yoooo im in this. IGN:Murder

[quote name="KouteshiKun" post="1106941" timestamp="1438091803"] [img]http://i.imgur.com/g0INu9q.png[/img][/quote] gg [quote name="CaptainFlorient" post="1117874" timestamp="1439334179"] [spoiler] P.S.: We have two almost same topics on the forum no? *-* [color=#4b0082][i][b][url="https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/55503-your-clothes-and-your-character-and-you/"]https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/55503-your-clothes-and-your-character-and-you/[/url][/b][/i][/color] [/spoiler][/quote] lol yeah they are very alike. Only difference is this one is screenshots, and the other is just discussion :)

I think all the people that left the game did a mistake. This new breeding really helps you can breed the exact pokémon you want.

I don't think so? Ninetales just got another huge counter in flareon, that resists the grass/fire coverage and can hit back hard with body slam or superpower.

I'll donate 1m

u put the moron in oxymoron

go play handheld games then, in an mmo environment 1/8193 encounterrates wont happen.

Upon looking at my rough list, I may have been harsh or too leniant with some ranking. But hey, discussion am I right? [spoiler]Need help with S[spoiler]Don't let this thread die.[/spoiler][/spoiler]

If there was 1 update I could choose in the next patch... It would so we be release Pokemon in their summary without having to be at the PC. I like CatchMMO, I just hate going through 100s of pokemon in my PC picking which I want.