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If I remember correctly that vote was due to the unexplained buff from 1.3 to 1.4 which made calculations unviable. I genuinely think TC members agreed for the reset back to 1.5 not because they preferred it that way but more off how does 1.4 make sense. I think the nerf to 1.3 was fair, but the reset back again to how it was when it dropped while we still didn't get a decent answer to Gallade is what doesn't make sense to me. 252+ Atk Sharpness Gallade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 76-91 (36.7 - 43.9%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery I assume it's Tangrowth nothing else would be able to check it as good as Tangrowth does. Gallade won't have any mon that can completely shut it down that's what people need to understand due to the versatility of move pool Psychic/Fighting/Dark/Grass/Ice alongside the Sharpness boost to Slicing moves ex: [Night Slash/Leaf Blade] 252+ Atk Sharpness Gallade Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 112-132 (55.7 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery If Slowbro is one of these answers I dont think it's an answer as much as a hit and go check. Which opens the door on how people would say Slowbro is strong and broken, to me the Dugtrio stalls are ones who will benefit from having Slowbro, but if Dugtrio wasn't there I believe Tyranitar would be unlocked and do a nice job handling Slowbro.

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Huge Loss for the pvp community. I'm glad we shared the pleasure as teammates and as rivals at times. Best of luck to you in your next chapter.

But on a real note tho, Dugtrio doesn't add anything competitively other than the existence of a a boring style which relies heavily of trapping Tyranitar to prevent sand from killing Shedinja which is immune to many typings. One part of the chain goes weak and that whole team gets thrown under the bus. Good day for Tyranitar users

Yeah thank you for wasting 2 hours of my day with this bug, much appreciated. https://streamable.com/s3gsn5

I understand that all of what you just mentioned are considered faster than qwilfish and can phase it out, but you’re forgetting that this is a valuable argument if we are talking about a 1v1 position not a 6vs6. I’ve played qwilfish multiple times myself. It isnt a wallbreaker nor a mon that should be bought early game. It’s a mid to late game cleanser and bringing it early to the field defies its purpose. Also with black sludge it somewhat gains survivability to be brought once or twice in certain positions not necessarily to sweep but to intimidate for example and switch out until its time comes. It needs support too not like its a mon that can do the whole job on its own and I’m not ashamed of saying this the amount if times I lost almost win games while facing qwilfish was disgusting due to the scenarios where it has all boxes checked for it to sweep correctly. And you do know that you have to make sacrifices sometimes because you’re obviously not countering or reacting to it alone but to other 5 mons including it. can setup vs escavlier/all fighting types that get locked ir don’t have super effective moves/bronzor/golbat/ any intimidated mon which is either locked on a move or is outside a 1hko range from qwill after intimidation and is slower. And yes im not saying ban it but atleast consider some nerfs or gunk shot removal or sd removal or whatever. I know it’s not gonna get touched anyway but im just if im the only one who thinks it’s just too much lately or not

I'm curious about the idea that it's reserved exclusively for Pokémon that need to be banned from OU. It seems like if such a rule exists, there might be instances where it's not strictly followed. I've noticed some situations where the same individuals involved in creating these rules sometimes seem to deviate from them. It could be interesting to explore how these rules are applied consistently. "Coughs in Gallade and Shaymin"

I really didn't have the energy to answer this but reading the replies that people think Qwilfish isn't a strong mon in NU currently is not true. Go ahead explain to me why Qwilfish has this win percentage if its not strong in NU currently? If you want to counter it you legit have to either play balance/stall Quagsire which is a mon that doesn't fit offensive playstyles or even Slowbro if chipped can be in a +2 gunk shot range. Gunk Shot gen9 move?! if it wasn't there probably this would've been a different discussion what are the checks? Qwilfish Impish vs Qwilfish SD? who wins that one? Only legit answers that gain safety without specific items are Ferroseed/Quagsire/Sceptile anything else can be threatened with SD and setting it up isn't hard, and you can do it against many mons, and let's not forget the amount of mons that can be in good range of +2 aqua jet. Any other scarfer can be in range of it and die. Gunk shot is a no contact move and avoids rocky helmet aswell. Forcing players to use a specific playstyle/teams to feel safe against it is overpowered. +2 252+ Atk Qwilfish Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mismagius: 91-108 (66.9 - 79.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +2 252+ Atk Qwilfish Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom: 76-90 (60.8 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO No hard feelings everyone is entitled to their opinion

I'm not sure if im the crazy one here, but when are we going to start a Qwilfish NU discussion?