DrCraig Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Will CiX and PoAu just fuck already the sexual tension is just ridiculous. Stahp Link to comment
Robofiend Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Am I the only person who see's an issue with the OU council and Tier board being exactly the same? I think it would serve the system well to mix that up seeing as this has been the most controversial and difficult tier to balance thus far. Really nothing has changed that needed to be changed, all this has done is put to rest those chiming for multiple councils for the different tiers. Apparently yes, and I would like to ask what you thought needed to be changed in the first place? Most of the complaints were that we had too much control over things like NU when none of us cared that much to fix it in the first place. The other complaints were basically just "he doesn't even play" personal attacks on people like Senile (who actually has been playing tournaments and doing well as of late). Anyway, I just see more people who make logical arguments and shit post a lot less than 4f and I have no idea why he got picked over somebody like Fred anndddd the hating begins. Welcome to the club 4f :) jayfeatskydd and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
jayfeatskydd Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Will CiX and PoAu just fuck already the sexual tension is just ridiculous. To be fair, the babies would be hideous. Think about it... DrJay? BurntToast? OldSkump? Statgramlol Instagramlol, GymLeaderGreen and slidingpanda 3 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 anndddd the hating begins. Welcome to the club 4f :) It feels nice to be hated by someone you considered as a friend, you know Link to comment
Robofiend Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It feels nice to be hated by someone you considered as a friend, you know :( Link to comment
jayfeatskydd Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It feels nice to be hated by someone you considered as a friend, you know He doesn't even have a PhD. Link to comment
DrCraig Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It feels nice to be hated by someone you considered as a friend, you know Its not hate ffs, was a general question Link to comment
Robofiend Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Its not hate ffs, was a general question Honestly I don't think anyone knows why fred isn't in one of these, he does a good job generally, and it would be kinda cool if he was on UU instead of Think just because he's already got a say in UU as part of the tier board. DrCraig 1 Link to comment
Toast Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 To be fair, the babies would be hideous. Think about it... BurntToast? rng is real jayfeatskydd, NikhilR and flavajabari 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I'm going to mess up UU so bad. #stoked Link to comment
CoolBoyJay Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 To be fair, the babies would be hideous. Think about it... DrJay? BurntToast? OldSkump? Statgramlol lol rip. Me and instagram straight flexin' would make some smexy babies doe. watchu' smokin Instagramlol 1 Link to comment
GymLeaderGreen Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Apparently yes, and I would like to ask what you thought needed to be changed in the first place? Most of the complaints were that we had too much control over things like NU when none of us cared that much to fix it in the first place. The other complaints were basically just "he doesn't even play" personal attacks on people like Senile (who actually has been playing tournaments and doing well as of late). I had something typed up but I want to ask this first. What is the exact function of the board and does it have a veto/vote for all 3 tiers? Link to comment
Robofiend Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I had something typed up but I want to ask this first. What is the exact function of the board and does it have a veto/vote for all 3 tiers? It says we "review" changes, I actually don't know if that means we'll be voting ourselves or just looking at proposed changes and saying "eh, good enough lets do this." In any case it shouldn't be a big issue because decisions up until this point have been pretty unanimous as far as moving things from tier to tier. It also seems pretty impossible that the UU council, for instance, would make a decision that everyone on the Tier board rejected entirely. As far as I know, we overlords just get some new weird title and get to make choices on whether things like Baton Pass are banned in-game. We don't really have executive control over lower tiers, nor do we want it, we were all happy to let the NU TC take on that responsibility. Link to comment
GymLeaderGreen Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It says we "review" changes, I actually don't know if that means we'll be voting ourselves or just looking at proposed changes and saying "eh, good enough lets do this." In any case it shouldn't be a big issue because decisions up until this point have been pretty unanimous as far as moving things from tier to tier. It also seems pretty impossible that the UU council, for instance, would make a decision that everyone on the Tier board rejected entirely. As far as I know, we overlords just get some new weird title and get to make choices on whether things like Baton Pass are banned in-game. We don't really have executive control over lower tiers, nor do we want it, we were all happy to let the NU TC take on that responsibility. Okay the way I was understanding it was the councils would make their threads do their votes and then it would go up to you guys for review. If that was the case the issue I was seeing was, there was a check and balance type of system for the other two tiers and OU's judge and jury were one and the same. Basically if the board was the final say on an issue, then I think that there should be diversity in members of both like there is in the other tiers. Its just more opinions and Ideas to be bounced around to help make the best decisions. Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 somebody like Fred i heard that fred guys a dick and doesnt get along with people Link to comment
codylramey Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I agree with leader green on this, you guys couldnt find 2 OU players capable and willing to do the OU counsel. Link to comment
Tranzmaster Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 2 things I wanted to point out: 1) The Tier Board will not have actual voting powers in the other councils. They will review and see if there it doesn't interfere with the policy the initial Tierlist Council has been maintaining. Since UU and NU won't give much trouble in that regard, it is safe to say that 99% of the time the bans will just go ahead as how they are proposed by the individual council. 2) The reason why I decided to merge the Tier Board and the OU council in terms of players: - The way the initial council has been taken care of the OU Tier was good, so there was no real need for a change in that regard. This also shows in the fact that the reorganisation was primarily done for the NU and maybe a small part for the UU tier, and this was according to what the community was asking. I wouldn't have reorganised if it was regarding the OU tier, since like I said, the Council has been doing well in that regard. - Merging OU Council and Tier Board makes sense since the flat ban/complex ban issue will pretty much only be relevant for the OU tier most of the time. jayfeatskydd and Noad 2 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The way the initial council has been taken care of the OU Tier was good [spoiler][/spoiler] If that is so, then I hope they are well aware of the very tiny, yet huge problem they caused by moving this down ;) Link to comment
Robofiend Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 [spoiler][/spoiler] If that is so, then I hope they are well aware of the very tiny, yet huge problem they caused by moving this down ;) 4f pls ban this Link to comment
DrCraig Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Diglett isnt even goood Link to comment
codylramey Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 2 things I wanted to point out: 1) The Tier Board will not have actual voting powers in the other councils. They will review and see if there it doesn't interfere with the policy the initial Tierlist Council has been maintaining. Since UU and NU won't give much trouble in that regard, it is safe to say that 99% of the time the bans will just go ahead as how they are proposed by the individual council. 2) The reason why I decided to merge the Tier Board and the OU council in terms of players: - The way the initial council has been taken care of the OU Tier was good, so there was no real need for a change in that regard. This also shows in the fact that the reorganisation was primarily done for the NU and maybe a small part for the UU tier, and this was according to what the community was asking. I wouldn't have reorganised if it was regarding the OU tier, since like I said, the Council has been doing well in that regard. - Merging OU Council and Tier Board makes sense since the flat ban/complex ban issue will pretty much only be relevant for the OU tier most of the time. I took a sleeping pill hours ago so forgive me if im misreading this, but is apart of the quoted statement saying that the reason you didnt get new people for the OU sub council bc you didnt want ppl to suggest complex bans? Link to comment
YagamiNoir Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I took a sleeping pill hours ago so forgive me if im misreading this, but is apart of the quoted statement saying that the reason you didnt get new people for the OU sub council bc you didnt want ppl to suggest complex bans? You and your complex bans Stubborn as you are pls stahp, Tranz clarified that the chosen councils must adhere to the established policies, aka no complex bans. Link to comment
codylramey Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 You and your complex bans Stubborn as you are pls stahp, Tranz clarified that the chosen councils must adhere to the established policies, aka no complex bans. Yea not what i am saying. According to trans he created a tier board to ...review and see if there it doesn't interfere with the policy the initial Tierlist Council has been maintaining. IE no complex bans. And he merged the tier board and the ou board bc he thinks they have been doing a good job with OU (lol) and ...the flat ban/complex ban issue will pretty much only be relevant for the OU tier most of the time. So two things i would like to ask. Firs why go through all of this trouble just to avoid complex bans. You guys have been doing a pretty good job saying no so far. And second you couldnt find 2 ppl who could fit into the OU sub counsel who wouldnt recommend complex bans? Link to comment
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