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6 minutes ago, Kurodashi said:

Miltank is UU aswell (and trapinch kek)

I guess trapinc is not ou anymore because of blissey. But now what she's banned he would probably come back because it's one of the mons that can easily count her. And also umbreon. Scizor needs a stab bug move ffs. He has so much power

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@OrangeManiac

 

Tier council is going to tier council. While I see other threats being worst than Machamp or Hariyama just as you do (Linoone is justified), we really have no say in what they do anymore. It's entirely their world and we just play in it. Power tiering has officially returned and 'theorymon' is what governs the tiers now. 

 

Why not just say fuck it and leave everything in UU?

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2 minutes ago, pachima said:

With the recent low usage of blissey in the past days, I was hoping she could be UU

You mean Chansey? If so, a lot of players didn't have Blissey or couldn't be bothered to make one so they continued to run Chansey. 

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TC mentions as an argument to ban gengar magneton not being as viable because of blissey. The're banning blissey.

 

TC says " The combination of Blissey and Chansey in the same meta is rediculous ". Sorry, when did we get evolite?

 

"Rhydon, Venusaur and Trapinch all work for Chansey, but don't work against Blissey. Natural Cure also allows them to switch endlessly from one to the other with little to no risk. Status and Leech Seed become completly pointless when they are both around.  " How does blissey win in any way shape or form against Ryhorn? hp grass? lmao. and yes, sure blissey loves leech seed and toxic w-o-w :) did they ever hear of momentum?

 

Pursuit trapping is an interesting way to deal with Gengar – especially with the new Choice Scarf Pursuiter available. However, the fact that there isn’t a single Pursuit user that can OHKO Gengar even though Gengar can OHKO/2HKO or Burn most Pursuit users makes Pursuit trapping unreliable. Houndoom? Snorlax? Slaking? 

 

w/e im just saying that it's a poorly written announcement..

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17 minutes ago, FNTCZ said:

TC mentions as an argument to ban gengar magneton not being as viable because of blissey. The're banning blissey.

 

TC says " The combination of Blissey and Chansey in the same meta is rediculous ". Sorry, when did we get evolite?

 

"Rhydon, Venusaur and Trapinch all work for Chansey, but don't work against Blissey. Natural Cure also allows them to switch endlessly from one to the other with little to no risk. Status and Leech Seed become completly pointless when they are both around.  " How does blissey win in any way shape or form against Ryhorn? hp grass? lmao. and yes, sure blissey loves leech seed and toxic w-o-w :) did they ever hear of momentum?

 

Pursuit trapping is an interesting way to deal with Gengar – especially with the new Choice Scarf Pursuiter available. However, the fact that there isn’t a single Pursuit user that can OHKO Gengar even though Gengar can OHKO/2HKO or Burn most Pursuit users makes Pursuit trapping unreliable. Houndoom? Snorlax? Slaking? 

 

w/e im just saying that it's a poorly written announcement..

*facepalms everywhere in this post*

 

Magneton is no way near as a reliable answer to Gengar because of the latter's access to life orb / ball which 2hkos Magneton AND with Blissey around, Gengar is basically free and goes unpunished.

 

Blissey and Chansey together can form the ultimate sp cancerous combo. If Blissey is running special attacks + twave, then it can be beaten by Sub Cm'ers and Chansey cover that weakness by running Seismic Toss + Toxic.

 

Rhydon is in no way a reliable switch in cuz of this:

252+ SpA Blissey Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rhydon: 154-182 (85.5 - 101.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

 

Yes, modest 252 def / spak Blissey is a thing. The statement says "Status and Leech seed become completely pointless when they are both around", which means that Blissey and Chansey can just repeatedly switch to each other while stalling out Venusaur's 16 pp leech seed. Only growth Venusaur can possess a threat.

 

It's fine to have an opinion on whether the announcement is poorly written, but your justification for it is worse. Also instead of shitting all over the TC, can we at least be grateful for the amount of effort they are putting in to try and make things work in such a quick amount of time? 

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Just now, BlackJovi said:

A lot of things outspeed it, and priority fucks it, kinda need something to stop garde 

There aren't many pokemons with priority moves. Absol and Scizor do well against garde aswell?. Also Flash Fire is annoying as fuck. Many people using Scizor + Houndoom core and it's just broken.

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Just now, Liberalisme said:

There aren't many pokemons with priority moves. Absol and Scizor do well against garde aswell?. Also Flash Fire is annoying as fuck. Many people using Scizor + Houndoom core and it's just broken.

nah scizor gets burned, and timid gardevoir could fuck absol up 

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8 minutes ago, DoubleJ said:

you say this, but who actually got you fired?

Don't know, but the support I've received from Robo, Ari, Gunt, gbwead and Orange (ex member now) made me feel a whole lot better and this is the least that I can do for them. If anything, I can say getting fired has been a blessing in disguise because of how much free time I have right now. It takes an insider's perspective (you know it too) to realize that they too have a life filled with responsibilities like us and they're making time to try and do what's right for the community without getting any reward in return. 

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21 minutes ago, NikhilR said:

*facepalms everywhere in this post*

 

Magneton is no way near as a reliable answer to Gengar because of the latter's access to life orb / ball which 2hkos Magneton AND with Blissey around, Gengar is basically free and goes unpunished.

 

Blissey and Chansey together can form the ultimate sp cancerous combo. If Blissey is running special attacks + twave, then it can be beaten by Sub Cm'ers and Chansey cover that weakness by running Seismic Toss + Toxic.

 

Rhydon is in no way a reliable switch in cuz of this:

252+ SpA Blissey Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rhydon: 154-182 (85.5 - 101.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

 

Yes, modest 252 def / spak Blissey is a thing. The statement says "Status and Leech seed become completely pointless when they are both around", which means that Blissey and Chansey can just repeatedly switch to each other while stalling out Venusaur's 16 pp leech seed. Only growth Venusaur can possess a threat.

 

It's fine to have an opinion on whether the announcement is poorly written, but your justification for it is worse. Also instead of shitting all over the TC, can we at least be grateful for the amount of effort they are putting in to try and make things work in such a quick amount of time? 

And rydon never does hp investment.

 

Blissey and Chansey can just repeatedly switch to each other while stalling out Venusaur's 16 pp leech seed.

 

Yes, because blindly switching back and forth  between two pokes is a completely reliable strategy, because prediction doesnt exist, because double switching isnt one of the most important concepts in pokemon, because wallbreakers dont exist, becauae phsycal swerper dont exist, because fighting type doest exist, because set-up sweepers arent a thing, because who has ever heard of choice band, because guts doesnt exist, because no one uses nothing of this and everyone will keep spaming leech seed and doing nothig else for 16 turns a row while you keep switching between chansey and blissey. 

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