whilt Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GeneralVenican said: thanks judge judy 1 I love Judge Judy! Edited October 17, 2016 by whilt RysPicz, GeneralVenican, Arimanius and 1 other 4 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, whilt said: Legally, Ari's reasoning should warrant him an extension, if not anything other than a loss. It should be noted that an event beyond anyone's control befell him and that there is undeniable evidence to support this. Such an event is seen as an Act of God, which in tort law is "an overwhelming event caused exclusively by natural forces whose effects could not possibly be prevented (e.g., flood, earthquake, tornado). In modern jurisdictions, "act of God" is often broadened by statute to include all natural phenomena whose effects could not be prevented by the exercise of reasonable care and foresight." (Cornell University Law School) Under international law, there is enough reason to overturn an activity decision following the principle of a force majeure clause. It is incumbent upon the manager to hold a PSL that is fair, thus to award an activity win that goes against international law is a disservice to the community outside the team he favors. In this case, justice is denied and one can surmise that we are playing a futile best friend's game. #biasedhost Calling me biased and saying I'm favoring a team isn't helping anyone here. I was going to suspend FABBROoo and award Walpayer with an activity win last week, but they had set up their match through whispers rather than PM and had no proof that either were even scheduled to play. I had even warned Raaidn, a very close friend of mine, that I would suspend him should he not complete his match during Week 2 when his team had already lost. These are written rules. I have though lifted the one week suspension. Regardless, there are no extensions awarded to anyone and naming this a "no contest" still awards the win to the Komalas, 5 to 4. ShadowGary 1 Link to comment
Telf Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, DoubleJ said: #CubonedGotBoned#AriWhere#CaptainNameDrop#LastMinute#BaenineLead#FightforSecond#Gunt2SweeT#TranzPass#PloegyFoundHerGlasses#ParkeOnAMission#EloyWinningToo#RoyClutch#Btoom!goBoom#MoeMoeIsBack#MidseasonIsComing#baisedhost ffty DoubleJ, LifeStyle and whilt 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 JJ too soft imo. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
Moetal Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Still tougher than softhug. Link to comment
whilt Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, DoubleJ said: Calling me biased and saying I'm favoring a team isn't helping anyone here. I was going to suspend FABBROoo and award Walpayer with an activity win last week, but they had set up their match through whispers rather than PM and had no proof that either were even scheduled to play. I had even warned Raaidn, a very close friend of mine, that I would suspend him should he not complete his match during Week 2 when his team had already lost. These are written rules. I have though lifted the one week suspension. Regardless, there are no extensions awarded to anyone and naming this a "no contest" still awards the win to the Komalas, 5 to 4. 4 There is an exception to every rule, and what more an exception than a 4.3 magnitude earthquake? If such an event can suspend obligations bounded in legal contracts, what safeguards a rule of one? You more than anyone should know that rules can be interpreted, as in the practice of judicial reviews. However, seeing as this is, in fact, a rule of one, I don't have anything to hold against you other than this PSL season's dignity. I call upon your conscience to ensure that justice is served. Until then, I refuse to participate in all of my future matches as there is now good enough reason for me to believe that I am not competing on an even playing field. Anyone who thinks likewise is free to join me. RysPicz, Arimanius, gbwead and 4 others 7 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, whilt said: I call upon your conscience to ensure that justice is served. Until then, I refuse to participate in all of my future matches as there is now good enough reason for me to believe that I am not competing on an even playing field. Anyone who thinks likewise is free to join me. Judicious action has led me to remove the ban on Arimanius for Week 4. There will be no extension and that is an even playing field as this rule applies to everyone. Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 My predictions! The Savage Swamperts (2) vs Cuboned (8) OU: Gluumac vs Pachima OU: lRoyXD vs Maekaaay OU: Zozorth vs Hassan UU: Havsha vs Forfiter UU: Aftershocker vs Arimanius NU: NataliaHeart vs whilt NU: DarylDixonTWD vs Mnemosyne Doubles: Artemiseta vs Rendoz ADV: Foggi vs Eggplant DPP: Raptori vs XPLOZ Team Riga (4) vs Wynaut Zoidberg (6) OU: Eloyriptor vs Xilias OU: Raaidn vs Frags OU: Kimikozen vs Tryss UU: Enchanteur vs Mlhawk UU: MisterHide vs Predakiller NU: Takens vs Lazaaro NU: Yettodie vs flavawhat Doubles: LordofAngmar vs Lkrenz ADV: Linken vs EricTheGreat DPP: Gunthug vs Btooom! Caramello Komalas (5) vs Baenine's Canines (5) OU: Schuchty vs DoubleJ OU: SejuaniSupport vs Torinnnnn OU: NightArch vs Spxter UU: NikhilR vs Guerinf UU: yangsam vs DestructX NU: LifeStyle vs YUBELLLLLLLLLLLL NU: timwaps vs GymLeaderGaryy Doubles: Imabetheverybest vs Jice ADV: Tyrone vs Tranzmaster DPP: Oltan vs Moetal Hellacious Houndooms (1) vs West High Knights (9) OU: Walpayer vs Kevola OU: Krillin vs LegendL OU: Fipp vs FABBROoo UU: Sebat vs overToasted UU: Bluejim vs BlackJovi NU: YungMulah vs Parke NU: Didistutter vs Miguelez Doubles: Jayfeatskyd vs BlueBreath ADV: Spaintakula vs Verrus DPP: Giantpipe vs SweeTforU Link to comment
DarylDixon Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 hours ago, DoubleJ said: The Savage Swamperts (0) vs Cuboned (0) NU: DarylDixonTWD vs Mnemosyne Finnally i play #Hypeeee Spoiler sure is not a fake telf? Spoiler i belieb DoubleJ, BlackJovi, ShadowGary and 4 others 7 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Team Cuboned has officially dropped out of PSL. Link to comment
Torinnnnn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, BlackJovi said: Team Cuboned has officially dropped out of PSL. gay Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 @Cuboned I'd just like to point out that Cuboned have 3 substitutes. A sub could've been made by 4f (since doc's at the docs) to make sure the match got played. I had this same thing happen in W1 when Tim dropped of the face of the earth, ended up having to make a sub since Tim only turned up 5min after deadline. And don't give me this 4f was asleep nonsense, I've been staying up until like 4am on Sundays just to make sure matches are played and to send my roster for the following week, plus he was online literally 30min before watching Hassan vs Kanzo, I'm sure he could've stayed online for at least 30min longer Posted this in the manager pm, I legit wan't to know why a sub wasn't played 2 hours ago, XPLOZ said: I'm not saying it solves anything. I'm losing interest, that's all. I don't want to play in an event with bs decisions (involving 2 guys from the same team) and no competition. I want to see battles. I want to win if I desserve to, and to lose if i'm bad. Last season, Guerinf v Noad, very similar situation and an extra time was given because the result of the battle was decisive. We lost, but we fucking felt much better than winning on such a bullshit. But that's my point, it doesn't solve anything, yet most of your team want's to act childish over this one decision At the end of the day what happened to Ari is lame and you can't blame him for no showing, but at the first signs of his disappearance there should've been scrambling in the Cuboned base. Yet instead they all just expected the match to get prolonged despite the rule being clear as day in the first post of every week Deadline Sunday, 23rd of October at 5PM PDT There was a long discussion before psl in the general thread too about how to avoid activity wins, and it was stated that there would be no extensions + would be consequences for no shows. JJ specifically made these rules set in stone to prevent controversial 50/50 decisions back in September. If Cuboned actually boycott the rest of the season, that's pretty fucking pathetic considering it was up to you guys to avoid this mishap. ShadowGary, KaynineXL, Kanzo and 8 others 11 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kizhaz said: yo To clarify for everyone, Doc alerted us in the private thread that he would be away this week and was leaving his captain, Forfiter, in charge of making team decisions. This is why Kiz is referencing Forf as the one to make a substitution. Kizhaz and BlackJovi 2 Link to comment
Moetal Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Kizhaz made a convincing and sound post for once. You're finally out of the negatives in my book. Edited October 17, 2016 by Moetal ShadowGary, KaynineXL, Kizhaz and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Kurodashi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 here's my predictions, could end up in a one sided week imo but nobody to count out The Savage Swamperts (0) vs Cuboned (0) OU: Gluumac vs Pachima OU: lRoyXD vs Maekaaay OU: Zozorth vs Hassan UU: Havsha vs Forfiter UU: Aftershocker vs Arimanius NU: NataliaHeart vs whilt NU: DarylDixonTWD vs Mnemosyne Doubles: Artemiseta vs Rendoz ADV: Foggi vs Eggplant DPP: Raptori vs XPLOZ Team Riga (0) vs Wynaut Zoidberg (0) OU: Eloyriptor vs Xilias OU: Raaidn vs Frags OU: Kimikozen vs Tryss UU: Enchanteur vs Mlhawk UU: MisterHide vs Predakiller NU: Takens vs Lazaaro NU: Yettodie vs flavawhat Doubles: LordofAngmar vs Lkrenz ADV: Linken vs EricTheGreat DPP: Gunthug vs Btooom! Caramello Komalas (0) vs Baenine's Canines (0) OU: Schuchty vs DoubleJ OU: SejuaniSupport vs Torinnnnn OU: NightArch vs Spxter UU: NikhilR vs Guerinf UU: yangsam vs DestructX NU: LifeStyle vs YUBELLLLLLLLLLLL NU: timwaps vs GymLeaderGaryy Doubles: Imabetheverybest vs Jice ADV: Tyrone vs Tranzmaster DPP: Oltan vs Moetal Hellacious Houndooms (0) vs West High Knights (0) OU: Walpayer vs Kevola OU: Krillin vs LegendL OU: Fipp vs FABBROoo UU: Sebat vs overToasted UU: Bluejim vs BlackJovi NU: YungMulah vs Parke NU: Didistutter vs Miguelez Doubles: Jayfeatskyd vs BlueBreath ADV: Spaintakula vs Verrus DPP: Giantpipe vs SweeTforU Spxter, EricTheGreat, DoubleJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment
GeneralVenican Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 people are really not beliving in houndooms this week... guess we have to show em their wrong Sashaolin, DoubleJ and DrButler 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It would be legit pooped for Doc's team to drop out or whatever they are trying to do, they are at a solid spot right now. 13k credits going into the mid season.. top 4 teams right now I think, solid lineup. Why toss away a high chance of winning PSL like that? Link to comment
Telf Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) i do believe what happened wasn't entirely fair but dropping out because of something this dumb is even dumber (yeah ik its not a word). you're all acting childish and you guys should move on and shrug it off and use this bad experience to fule your fire and win this season. This experience has already brought your team closer together but not in a good way, try to swap it around and use it for positivity. Edited October 17, 2016 by Telf Link to comment
Kurodashi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, GeneralVenican said: people are really not beliving in houndooms this week... guess we have to show em their wrong Nah we confident, we got Parke to carry us. :^) xXBlu3BreathXx, DoubleJ and Parke 3 Link to comment
Moetal Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, Kurodashi said: here's my predictions, could end up in a one sided week imo but nobody to count out DPP: Oltan vs Moetal You gonna put some money up on that? Link to comment
JIceJDragon Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Predictions (A lot of them were hard to choose so I flipped a coin) Spoiler The Savage Swamperts (3) vs Cuboned (7) OU: Gluumac vs Pachima OU: lRoyXD vs Maekaaay OU: Zozorth vs Hassan UU: Havsha vs Forfiter UU: Aftershocker vs Arimanius NU: NataliaHeart vs whilt NU: DarylDixonTWD vs Mnemosyne Doubles: Artemiseta vs Rendoz ADV: Foggi vs Eggplant DPP: Raptori vs XPLOZ Team Riga (1) vs Wynaut Zoidberg (9) OU: Eloyriptor vs Xilias OU: Raaidn vs Frags OU: Kimikozen vs Tryss UU: Enchanteur vs Mlhawk UU: MisterHide vs Predakiller NU: Takens vs Lazaaro NU: Yettodie vs flavawhat Doubles: LordofAngmar vs Lkrenz ADV: Linken vs EricTheGreat DPP: Gunthug vs Btooom! Caramello Komalas (0) vs Baenine's Canines (10) OU: Schuchty vs DoubleJ OU: SejuaniSupport vs Torinnnnn OU: NightArch vs Spxter UU: NikhilR vs Guerinf UU: yangsam vs DestructX NU: LifeStyle vs YUBELLLLLLLLLLLL NU: timwaps vs GymLeaderGaryy Doubles: Imabetheverybest vs Jice ADV: Tyrone vs Tranzmaster DPP: Oltan vs Moetal Hellacious Houndooms (4) vs West High Knights (6) OU: Walpayer vs Kevola OU: Krillin vs LegendL OU: Fipp vs FABBROoo UU: Sebat vs overToasted UU: Bluejim vs BlackJovi NU: YungMulah vs Parke NU: Didistutter vs Miguelez Doubles: Jayfeatskyd vs BlueBreath ADV: Spaintakula vs Verrus DPP: Giantpipe vs SweeTforU A lot of good matchups this week though Siced about OU: Gluumac vs Pachima Doubles: Artemiseta vs Rendoz DPP: Raptori vs XPLOZ OU: Raaidn vs Frags ADV: Linken vs EricTheGreat DPP: Gunthug vs Btooom! UU: yangsam vs DestructX ADV: Tyrone vs Tranzmaster UU: Sebat vs overToasted UU: Bluejim vs BlackJovi Doubles: Jayfeatskyd vs BlueBreath Edited October 17, 2016 by JIceJDragon BlackJovi, ShadowGary, Camyy and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Kurodashi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Moetal said: You gonna put some money up on that? Not really, but I wanna see you loosing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ BlackJovi 1 Link to comment
Rendiz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, Kizhaz said: Let's not confuse what you are doing. You are purely trying to get the free win for your team as is within your rights, but please spare the false empathy its very condescending. Sure we have 3 substitutes but that doesn't mean shit when you account how active they are + how little time there was remaining for the week, There would have been very little if not no time to build a team that is even if any of them were online (kek). The only reason you would even bring this up is if you were suggesting the substitute would be given an extension which we all know is false. This aside I think it's safe to say that Arimanius missing his battle was not his fault. Which means we need to look at the root cause it is because of late scheduling. Considering how Ari was the one to make contact albeit late and how he also offered saturday as an option shows that the late scheduling was far from being entirely his fault. The reason why people were pushing for tighter deadlines was to stop people coming up with bs excuses to try and get extensions when in reality they were just being lazy. We live in the real world where shit can go wrong. Arimanius did what should be expected of him but got fucked by something entirely outside of his control. This is not some super serious shit that cannot be worked around we are here playing a fucking Pokemon Game, the keyword there being game. Shit like this happening in real life cannot be prevented or worked around, rescheduling a battle on a shitty little pokemon game that nobody cares about however is. DiDi, Torinnnnn, Gazelli and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, Rendiz said: Let's not confuse what you are doing. You are purely trying to get the free win for your team as is within your rights, but please spare the false empathy its very condescending. Sure we have 3 substitutes but that doesn't mean shit when you account how active they are + how little time there was remaining for the week, There would have been very little if not no time to build a team that is even if any of them were online (kek). The only reason you would even bring this up is if you were suggesting the substitute would be given an extension which we all know is false. This aside I think it's safe to say that Arimanius missing his battle was not his fault. Which means we need to look at the root cause it is because of late scheduling. Considering how Ari was the one to make contact albeit late and how he also offered saturday as an option shows that the late scheduling was far from being entirely his fault. The reason why people were pushing for tighter deadlines was to stop people coming up with bs excuses to try and get extensions when in reality they were just being lazy. We live in the real world where shit can go wrong. Arimanius did what should be expected of him but got fucked by something entirely outside of his control. This is not some super serious shit that cannot be worked around we are here playing a fucking Pokemon Game, the keyword there being game. Shit like this happening in real life cannot be prevented or worked around, rescheduling a battle on a shitty little pokemon game that nobody cares about however is. Last year I got railed on because I was constantly bending the rules as host and "filling in the gray areas" with my own judgement. In the offseason, the two most self righteous people on the forums, both of which are on cuboned, led a crusade against the "disgusting" activity wins in PSL and threatened not to play if something wasn't done. So JJ does what I wish had been done before my season as host, creates rules that are set in stone to discourage late week scheduling and activity wins, and now at the first little sign of controversy an entire team is threatening to walk? Because of a match that could possibly have changed their loss to a tie? Lol, fucking good riddance. BlackJovi, KaynineXL, Kizhaz and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Rendiz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Gunthug said: I'm going to be honest I can't remember the decisions you had but for the most part the reasons they had were pretty fucking poor. Wasn't Guerinfs excuses that he went out and got drunk and forgot about it? That doesn't even seem remotely comparable to a random ass earthquake. Arimanius and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
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