Gunthug Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, gbwead said: Considering that last season both Kami and Linken have bested the remaining "good DPP or at least serviceable players", the void of skill has been filled. People are just realising now that there wasn't much to fill... Linked didnt beat all the "good" dpp players, but considering you thought sm lc was better than dpp last season its obvious you didnt actually watch any of the duels so I see why you wouldn't know that Link to comment
gbwead Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gunthug said: Linked didnt beat all the "good" dpp players, but considering you thought sm lc was better than dpp last season its obvious you didnt actually watch any of the duels so I see why you wouldn't know that I did watch the duels, but there wasn't much to see when it comes to skills in DPP. Edited August 31, 2018 by gbwead Link to comment
RysPicz Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Randoms tier best tier. Most fair Link to comment
soyhector Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) Seriously you should consider ramdoms tier. Would be interesting seeing duels with impredictable teams, also would be a challenge for players to do their best with teams they didnt choose. As well there dont exist scout, so probably duels would be early and not saturday/sundays like always. And its not like its not competitive for the fact of using ramdom teams, possibly its more competitive than (for example) watching DPP duels with 99% Heatran, Jirachi, Tyranitar and Swampert...or LC With 99% Mienfo, Vullaby, Drilbur, etc. Edited August 31, 2018 by soyhector Link to comment
Toast Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 should be battle factory instead of randoms so its not completely rng based soyhector and Kizhaz 2 Link to comment
Bilburt Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Toast said: should be battle factory instead of randoms so its not completely rng based Should shut up, battle factory big gay, the only thing gayer than battle factory is when the tips touch, cuz thats real big gay soyhector 1 Link to comment
Havsha Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If we do battle factory or randoms then wed neglect team building which is a fundamental part of comp, also randoms can give some horid match ups, same is true for battle factory(just gotta wait for the ground v electric monotype) but we do go down the path of some random tier, it would have to be bo3, still less prep needed by the players each week since they won't team build so sounds like a bad idea to me SweeTforU, xStarr, Zymogen and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
xStarr Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Psl is all about competition. dafuq is randoms. everbroth and SweeTforU 1 1 Link to comment
Zymogen Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Why not consider a lower SM tier like UU or RU since we’ve already dabbled in OU and LC? Maybe even SM Ubers? E: I think exploring randoms and/or battle factory for a PSL tier is a step backwards. I’d elaborate but I’d just be repeating what Jo and Havsha have already said Edited September 1, 2018 by Zymogen DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
Havsha Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zymogen said: Why not consider a lower SM tier like UU or RU since we’ve already dabbled in OU and LC? Maybe even SM Ubers? E: I think exploring randoms and/or battle factory for a PSL tier is a step backwards. I’d elaborate but I’d just be repeating what Jo and Havsha have already said Personally I think theres a lot of room for SM OU atm, it seems pretty competitive and pretty fun tbh from my laddering, just gotta get over the toxapex and celesteela spam, SM Ubers is kinda meh imo primal groundon kinda dominates the tier atm, though id be down for some SM RU, definitely one of the more fun tiers in SM atm, but in terms of competitiveness SM OU would probably give the most room for players here to compete in. Assuming all of you dont live under a rock. But yeah, we've not really touch the surface of SM OU in previous psls Zymogen 1 Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Can we just all stop being autistic for a moment with SM RU like wtffff that would have the exact same uncompetitive problems as the other suggestions just add another MMO OU Laz, gbwead, DoubleJ and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, xStarr said: Psl is all about competition. dafuq is randoms. i have a argument for you. with randoms you and your opponent have no control over your team, but their are winners and looser and people with VERY high random elo. what determines the winner is two things. rng yes but also skill. you have to take a team you have never played with and learn it and use it to the most of its potential with very little time. normal battles you can pick and choose pokemon and builds you are familiar with, but in randoms you have to be familiar with every build of every pokemon. and when you yell "but the rng" i ask you what pokemon game doesnt have rng? pachima 1 Link to comment
DrButler Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, fredrichnietze said: and when you yell "but the rng" i ask you what pokemon game doesnt have rng? so more rng > rng, cause rng? Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, DrButler said: so more rng > rng, cause rng? the only "more rng" is what you get in your team and this rng also creates a high skill ceiling. Link to comment
Nawe Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 mmo team preview tier /// mmo vgc /// some shit like that, fuck showdown DoubleJ and RLotus 2 Link to comment
suigin Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Metronome battles or bust. Telf 1 Link to comment
DrButler Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, fredrichnietze said: the only "more rng" is what you get in your team and this rng also creates a high skill ceiling. every other tier provides a high skill ceiling without the the extra rng. you can hardly be serious tho, so no clue why i even took the bait. u got me. Link to comment
Laz Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nawe said: mmo vgc 18 hours ago, soyhector said: Seriously 3 hours ago, xStarr said: dafuq 26 minutes ago, DoctorPBC said: Can we just all stop being autistic for a moment 10 minutes ago, DrButler said: ? everbroth, amanisnoone, Mkns1070 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrButler said: every other tier provides a high skill ceiling without the the extra rng. having to learn everything instead of a single team is definitely more difficult. 4 minutes ago, DrButler said: you can hardly be serious tho, so no clue why i even took the bait. u got me. im 80% serious 20% pissing of doc because fuck that guy Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, fredrichnietze said: having to learn everything instead of a single team is definitely more difficult. im 80% serious 20% pissing of doc because fuck that guy Awwwww Link to comment
Mkns1070 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just add another LC and it's done Nawe and Suneet 2 Link to comment
Zymogen Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, DoctorPBC said: Can we just all stop being autistic for a moment with SM RU like wtffff that would have the exact same uncompetitive problems as the other suggestions How does RU compare to randoms? Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 No more showdown tiers plz. Nawe 1 Link to comment
Havsha Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Honestly if we get rid of showdown tiers mmo monotype might be a niche tier which would be interesting, I mean match up is rng, but its better than 3 ou tiers or 2 dubs tiers. Id be pretty hyped to watch the matches Sashaolin, Suneet and amanisnoone 3 Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Why not bring back an old school tier, classic MMO 4v4 OU... any pokes allowed Mkns1070 1 Link to comment
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