DrCraig Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 At +1 gyarados kills all three of those with crunch? And yay snorlax :)+1 252 Atk Gyarados Crunch vs. 252 HP / 68 Def Starmie: 140-166 (83.8 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Why even invest fully in satk, utility star is best =) Shaniqualela 1 Link to comment
NikhilR Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Time to start running Rhydon and getting shit on by Gengar. DoubleJ and OldKeith 2 Link to comment
Leandro Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 spam curselax I choose you !! i did not like... Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Time to start running Rhydon and getting shit on by Gengar. Until snorlax eq you on the switch....... Link to comment
Shaniqualela Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Until snorlax eq you on the switch....... If you're going to dedicate a moveslot to beat rhydon surf>>> Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) If you're going to dedicate a moveslot to beat rhydon surf>>> Lol eq is not just for rhydon. Run along if you don't know that Edited May 13, 2015 by Excelimpulse Shaniqualela 1 Link to comment
Shaniqualela Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Lol eq is not just for rhydon. Run along if you don't know thatUn-edit it, the first one was funnier I guess eq hits rhydon and metagross but that's really it. But their def is so high it's usually better to run surf or fire blast to hit them harder. I didn't do the calc but I'm pretty sure eq will be a 3hko Surf and fire blast would be a Ohko or 2hko Edited May 13, 2015 by Shaniqualela Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Un-edit it, the first one was funnier I guess eq hits rhydon and metagross but that's really it. But their def is so high it's usually better to run surf or fire blast to hit them harder. I didn't do the calc but I'm pretty sure eq will be a 3hko Surf and fire blast would be a Ohko or 2hko Eq 2 hko on rhydon from what I know and if cb gg. special attacks don't hit them both hard eq does. Draekyn 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Rip OU. The king of the metagame is back. Edit: and here i thought I'd have a chance of winning a shiny beldum with lax gone. Bope. Incoming curse wars and parahax up the arse. Edited May 13, 2015 by DoubleJ Leandro, Robofiend and KaynineXL 3 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 fuck no thats not a real knife. you can tell by the way the plastic vibrates and shakes when she opens it and that there is no edge. also shes holding it wrong and spring assist is illegal in most places. Gunthug, jayfeatskydd and Vaeldras 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Leggo shit meta What happened behind the scenes to promote this decision? The talks seemed pretty split still and even you weren't swayed by the results to affirm a decision to bring lax back. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 What happened behind the scenes to promote this decision? The talks seemed pretty split still and even you weren't swayed by the results to affirm a decision to bring lax back. everyone in tc except robo wanted snorlax to be moved back down (I assume I'm allowed to say this) Robofiend and Senile 2 Link to comment
Senile Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 everyone in tc except robo wanted snorlax to be moved back down (I assume I'm allowed to say this) I mean, it's not like it's some big secret, hue. Link to comment
codylramey Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Zebra being someone who actually plays im surprised you didnt notice how much less restrictive team building for OU was when you didnt have to worry about lax. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Zebra stoked cuz he can go back to using Bliss and Lax now. Only sorta kidding. Really thought this test was going to make a difference, but by looking at numbers alone for a small sample size I guess there isn't much of a difference after all. Link to comment
DoctorPBC Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 tbh I had the most fun in ages playing in a snorlax-less meta... dissapointed it was brought back. xILuLu, DoubleJ, jayfeatskydd and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Robofiend Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 tbh I had the most fun in ages playing in a snorlax-less meta... dissapointed it was brought back. Really thought this test was going to make a difference, but by looking at numbers alone for a small sample size I guess there isn't much of a difference after all. Dat stats argument. I do feel that a month was too short, but whatever. Back to UU I guess, especially now that some of the tier's awful walls have been exocised. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Dat stats argument. I do feel that a month was too short, but whatever. Back to UU I guess, especially now that some of the tier's awful walls have been exocised. i cant decided if i should be glad some agrees with me that they were awful or be questioning everything i thought was right since you agree with me. someone pls halp edit i decided it's a good thing Edited May 14, 2015 by fredrichnietze Link to comment
Robofiend Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 someone pls halp I'm just not as ban-averse as some people Also kinda stoked to bust out my Rhygod again. KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
codylramey Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Zebra stoked cuz he can go back to using Bliss and Lax now. Only sorta kidding. Really thought this test was going to make a difference, but by looking at numbers alone for a small sample size I guess there isn't much of a difference after all. JJ bro how many laxless meta pokes were you able to make in a month? I made 1, ofc im REALLY REALLY slow at breeding (was able to make 3 pokes in the month but only one was made bc lax was gone). I had plans to make a miltank, gardevior (might still make this WoW is good), umbreon, ursaring, DDance kingdra,and lanturn. I had plans to make other things too but they are still good like fake tears jolt and SD hera. The usage stats were poo and a shit way of determining whether the meta changed or not. The meta did change and most people who actually have built teams for both metas noticed that. Not all ofc but you can also chalk some things up to bias. Also we completely missed the fact that Blazekin went from UU usage to OU usage, i think umbreon did too. DoubleJ and Shaniqualela 2 Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 JJ bro how many laxless meta pokes were you able to make in a month? I made 1, ofc im REALLY REALLY slow at breeding (was able to make 3 pokes in the month but only one was made bc lax was gone). I had plans to make a miltank, gardevior (might still make this WoW is good), umbreon, ursaring, DDance kingdra,and lanturn. I had plans to make other things too but they are still good like fake tears jolt and SD hera. The usage stats were poo and a shit way of determining whether the meta changed or not. The meta did change and most people who actually have built teams for both metas noticed that. Not all ofc but you can also chalk some things up to bias. Also we completely missed the fact that Blazekin went from UU usage to OU usage, i think umbreon did too. If you only made 1 poke during that time and if we would have to assume that everyone is that slow at breeding the meta would evolve when our kids pick this game up. So no the usage stats are correct and do show what is currently happening in our meta rather if it's up to your standards or not. I made 7 pokes during that time, and barely have any time to play anymore. So I don't get why it would take that long. And rather you like it or not snorlax isn't op and you can even still use those pokes on a team that fits them. Gardevoir is still great and can perform almost the same thing as gengar and can take special hits. Link to comment
codylramey Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If you only made 1 poke during that time and if we would have to assume that everyone is that slow at breeding the meta would evolve when our kids pick this game up. So no the usage stats are correct and do show what is currently happening in our meta rather if it's up to your standards or not. I made 7 pokes during that time, and barely have any time to play anymore. So I don't get why it would take that long. And rather you like it or not snorlax isn't op and you can even still use those pokes on a team that fits them. Gardevoir is still great and can perform almost the same thing as gengar and can take special hits. I said i was slow, what part of that did you not get. Some are slower than I and some are faster. Just bc you made 7 pokes doesnt mean everyone was that lucky. Also YOU making 7 pokes and I making 3 doesnt really matter bc none of us were in torunies during the test (i tried but couldnt make it on the bracket). You also have to remember that half of the usage stats were taken only about 2 weeks in the test. Hell we only got one usage update during the test which came may third. That means technically we only had 3 weeks to adapt bc any changes in the meta that happened after may 3rd wasnt taken into consideration. At the very least an extention to the test would have been the best way to go. It takes a long time for someone to come up with something new and for others to see it and copy it. Thats how the meta changes, and we didnt get a fair chance to make that happen. DrCraig 1 Link to comment
Excelimpulse Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I said i was slow, what part of that did you not get. Some are slower than I and some are faster. Just bc you made 7 pokes doesnt mean everyone was that lucky. Also YOU making 7 pokes and I making 3 doesnt really matter bc none of us were in torunies during the test (i tried but couldnt make it on the bracket). You also have to remember that half of the usage stats were taken only about 2 weeks in the test. Hell we only got one usage update during the test which came may third. That means technically we only had 3 weeks to adapt bc any changes in the meta that happened after may 3rd wasnt taken into consideration. At the very least an extention to the test would have been the best way to go. It takes a long time for someone to come up with something new and for others to see it and copy it. Thats how the meta changes, and we didnt get a fair chance to make that happen. That's why the big 3 basically got instant banned and nobody had a chance to adapt to it either Link to comment
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