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Tell me there's an ongoing vote to quickban this ?
 
EDIT : Ok Munya said there is, cool 

Looking at the January 2019 UU metagame, Yanmegga seemed very difficult to stop as well and yet it never got banned:
Most of these mons are NU today. Sure, NU doesn't have Crobat and Snorlax, but NU still has Gigalith, Mantine, Milotic, Golbat, Cryogonal (btw @Imperial you calced Cryogonal with 70 base hp instead of 80), etc.
 
I'm very confident Yanmegga will be unhealthy, but that's not a reason to ban something without testing it out.

medicham 2.0. 
Surely yanmega won't be a problem this time.

I do agree that Dugtrio should be revisited but the vote and final decision only ended 2 months ago. Give it some time, at least a full season.
 
Regarding Yanmega, it's probably too good for NU. TC will let y'all know what we plan to do. 

I've been arguing  about the sand trap problem for so long that I don't even bother talking about it anymore.

I honestly don't think we should wait so long to revise Dug. It's an ongoing problem and I believe we should take action as soon as possible, seeing how the vote was split, how lengthy the discussion was and how dug's endeavor became so prominent.

Returning it to 1.5x was the result of a 5-1 tier council vote in late November, unrelated to the legendary birds. To my understanding it was largely the belief that the initial ban/nerf was too hasty mixed with a dislike for 1.4x on principle.
 
We'll be introducing some more answers to Gallade with the raid update. Although we'd (devs) prefer to keep it in the tier until then to avoid the disruptive process of removing then reintroducing it soon after, the tier council is still allowed to ban it if they believe that it's too broken to wait. You're welcome to make a case for a ban in the OU discussion request thread.

Two questions, one request:
 
1. Are we really allowing Yanmega to drop to NU?
2. When can we re-test Dugtrio for a potential ban?
3. Caio please do not quote me

There's currently a vote going on in regards to Yanmega
 
If it ever drops below usage movement cutoff sure, but it hasn't.
 

First month, 5.5 up to go up, 3 down to move down.
 
To UU from NU:
Quagsire - 6.81% usage in UU
 
To NU from UU:
Yanmega - 2.91% usage in UU
 
There is also an ongoing vote(will be concluded at the time tier changes go live in game in a few days) to retest Shaymin in UU.

Description 
Hey everyone, I am here today to celebrate the retirement and long lived story of @BaliAds He has asked me to host a 50M tag tournament in his honor (Don't ask my why on such short notice). This tournament with be a 5v5 tag format. Tiers are OU, UU, NU, Dubs, UT. To register either post here or DM me on Discord @necasintrouble. 

Date & Time
Sunday, 28th April | 11AM EST | 3PM UTC | 4PM BST

Location
Silph Co Ch 5, Kanto

Rules

Format 
5v5
OU, UU, NU, Doubles, Untiered

Standard Single and Double Battle Rules 
(Please make sure when challenging doubles you chose the Ubers tier)
Bracket will be made 5-10 minutes prior to event start and randomized

Activity Wins
If a player has failed to show up by 10 minutes after the last duel starts you may whisper me to get an activity win

Registration
You must register at least 5 players (One for each tier) and at max 6 (Allowing for 1 substitute)
Prizes
1st Place
50M to split between all participating members

(Prizes may take a few days to distribute)

Michelle, he found it in Safari Zone. You can't use masterballs there

Team Tag + Name:  Lo romantic
Registered Players:   tykd uor siyuex xigbaar tohnr queest lovesinile mislandier kxiv hklaass weiweiweifeng zhaoyugod HayaQL bmtirpitz oyy
Team Captain: Queest

Good name ahah

I would gladly have breakfast with you bro

wake up in 3 am and let's have stall vs stall breakfast♥

Date
Thursday, 25th April 2024
 
Time
16:00 UTC | 12:00 ET | 13:00 BRT | 18:00 CEST | 00:00 CST (China, Friday, 26th) |  Time Zone Converter
        
Location
Shoal Cave, Hoenn, Channel 1
(Catching is allowed on any channel)
 
Duration
1 hour for catching
another 10 minutes for players to submit entries
 
Scoring
Total sum of IVs + Species Bonus + Nature Bonus = Total Score
 
Pokemon accepted as valid entries
 
  Spheal +5
 
 Sealeo -2
 
Nature Bonus
 
Impish +2
Naughty +2
Docile -5
Gentle -5
 
 Nature Translation
 
Rules
To win 1st-3rd places that are sorted by high to low, you need to submit an entry that scores the highest To win 4th place you need to submit an entry that scores the lowest You can only submit one entry Players can enter the event with only one account/character. All Pokémon must be caught within the event time and at the event location All Pokémon must remain unchanged (untrained/unevolved...) Evolved or unevolved forms of the listed Pokémon will not be accepted as a valid entry You must be the OT of the Pokémon You must link your entry to any participating staff member via whisper to submit it Keep the pokemon in your team till results. In the event of a tie, the winner will be determined by earliest catch time  
Rules Translation
 
Participating Staff
DawnIceQueen
Enzo
Playnerx
 
 1st Place Prize

GIFT Shiny Spheal Lv. 5
Your choice of nature, 2 moves, with 3 selectable IVs & 3x28 IVs
&
1,000 Reward Points
 
 2nd Place Prize
500 Reward Points
 
 3rd-4th Place Prize
250 Reward Points
 
The prizes will be sent to the winners a few days after the event

We have finally reached a point when, in the very rare situation where Caio is right and Sweet is wrong, some hiveminded people brainlessly side with Sweet, dismissing Caio, not because it is the logical thing to do, not because the argument tells them to do so, but simply because in their minds the argument is less important than whoever claims it. (Tip: It isn't)
 
Weavile IS a Serperior check. I don't care what gimmicks you want to extrapolate, or whatever you want to say or imply or claim. There is proper terminology in the Pokemon world and instead of actually fighting for or against the actual arguments, we loop between semantics where some have no idea what they are talking about. 
 
Thank you VadimEmpoleon for going through it properly. 
 
Regarding Dugtrio, and, most specifically, Gb's post on it. It is true some of Dugtrio's targets can dodge. Some can pivot, others have enough bulk. Yada yada. But you missed the fundamental point. Dugtrio is not supposed to hard switch against them. It is supposed to gain free momenum beforehand so it can then trap its target. There is only one way (Barring the very irrelevant Shed shell), to prevent this, which is to never play the Pokemon before Dugtrio is taken down. Congratulations! Dugtrio has successfully pressured their threats without even being on the field. This is unhealthy. 
 
Or, is it? Magnezone and Tyranitar can, in a way, accomplish the same. So what is the difference between these two and Dugtrio? The amount of targets they possess. The first two have very limited choices, while Dugtrio is able to delete a very significant part of the format. This is the main reason why the Pokemon was chronically banned in most formats. It is very easy and worthy trading a death so Dugtrio can then safely delete the threat you want to get rid of.
 
But what is the unhealthy part? Is it Dugtrio? Is it Arena Trap? The issue with this question is you cannot completely separate the Pokemon from their ability (Or whatever else they possess). Afterall, Diglett and Trapinch are not an issue. Does this mean Arena Trap is inherently unhealthy? Both yes and no. 
 
Since this is probably hard to grasp at first glance, let me find something else: Wonder Guard. Is it broken, or unhealthy? Not necessarily. Afterall, Shedinja is harmless with it. Let's see another harmless Pokemon in OU: Jolteon (Yes, irrelevant enough so it is not even OU). Jolteon with Wonder Guard would be both broken and unhealthy. This is interesting because Jolteon by itself isn't an issue, and neither is Shedinja with the ability. It is the combination of the two that would make it a problem. 
 
Maybe you can argue Arena Trap isn't unhealthy. You can definitely argue Dugtio isn't broken. But you can't simply state that because A and B are not an issue and share an ability with C, then C isn't an issue either.
 
To answer the question. What is the unhealthy part? Not one or the other separately, but simply the combination of the two. 
 
(Yes, I understand Wonder Guard Jolteon doesn't exist. The argument is still the same)
 
 
 
 

No.

They can't beat NoRe so they made another competition

Plz add Magic Room and Gravity aside as well 🙂

tailwind has a counter but please add TRICK ROOM AND WEATHER COUNTER

He's right though.

Starting May 2024, I'd like to be part of hosting an unofficial version of the Team Tournament, specially targeted to Asian teams who can't access the usual official Team Tournaments due to time issues. This doesn't mean the tournament will be restricted: Everyone can join, this is just an alternative for Asian teams to be able to apply for playing a similar format than the held in the official Team Tournament.
With Queest's help, we'll try to expand this idea to the Asian-CN community in order to make the event more interesting and challenging.
 
Format
- Up to 32 Teams per month
- Up to 15 participant players per team
 
Registration Thread
A registration thread will be opened on the same Thursday of the week the event will take place, at 12 PM GMT, in order for teams to register. Up to 32 teams will be registered.
We don't allow 2 alt teams at the same time. In case you want to participate with an academy team, you can't participate with the main one.
 
 
Ruling.
- About the standings 
   - 10 points for the champion
   - 5 points for the 2nd place
   - 3 points for the semi-finalists
   - 1 point for the quarter-finalists (if teams registered = or > 16)
 
The main idea is to follow the similar format and tiers than the official Team Tournament, so the monthly tiering will be the exact same than the official TT, even though we may contemplate adding LC in the future if the event has a good success.
 
Monthly Prizes:
1st Place Team
3k RP to split as the Captain wishes.
 
2nd Place Team
1.5k RP to split as the Captain wishes.
 
Yearly Prizes:
This is a work in progress, but I plan to hold a tournament similar to the Cup of the year between the 8 highest-standing teams, awarding the first one with a competitive shiny depending on what we have around.
 
Location and Time
Silph Co. Ch.4 (1st F) /11 AM GMT (Can slightly vary depending on circumstances)
 
Hosts:
Shadow, Queest
 
Referees:
Shadow, TBD
 
Thread is up to be edited, looking for your feedback. 👌
 
 
 

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