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    1 hour ago, razimove said:

    just a heads up, its not a money sink, money will just change hands, well technically you sink a tiny bit on braces and choosing gender, but thats about it. You can just buy said pokemon from gtl and it stops being a money sink, or even buy 1 5iv female, and a natured 4iv male from someone and then its just like at most ans being very optimistically a 40k money sink

    The idea is you lose the 5x31 when you finish the quest, so we are removing a ton of x31 pokemon from the game and increasing the value of each breeder. If every player is trying to breed for the quest, the price of those 5x31 female will be high and there won't be enough on the market for every player to buy.

     

    This also doesn't take into account the random nature & egg move requirement: If using my example, I need a Hardy Mudkip with Yawn - what are the chances there will be a Male Slowpoke/Wooper with the correct IV's + Hardy nature and a 5x31 Female Mudkip already on GTL? Logged in to check and there are no Slowpoke or Mudkip that would allow me to finish this quest in 1 breed, so it would take a few extra steps & I would spend more on the braces/everstones

    I came up with this because I recently finished a ROM hack that has a quest feature, and it left me asking why this wasn't already the norm for Pokemon games. Then I remembered there's this Pokemon MMO that I put 5,000+ hours into that still doesn't have their own quest feature and I thought that was ridiculous 

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    I was brainstorming ways to implement a true quest system into the game & came up with something I'm fairly happy with - I have no idea if this interests anyone else but I figured I would share my thoughts

     

    Each week an NPC will request a specific Pokemon that you must create, and it must be your OT: It will request a specific species with 5x31 IV's, a specific nature, and 1 specific egg move. You will have 7 days to trade in your finished Pokemon for the reward - Yes, trade in. you will not keep the Pokemon after the quest is complete. An example of this quest would be: Mudkip / Hardy / 5x31 without Attack / Yawn egg move. The species, IV's, nature, and egg move will be different for each player to prevent one specific egg group from exploding in price on GTL. This should ideally boost each egg group equally and make the quest more interesting as everyone will be creating different Pokemon

     

    This will accomplish multiple things:

     

    1) Serves as a money-sink as you will 'trade' your finished Pokemon in for the reward, so you lose the Pokemon & all money spent on breeders + breeding items

    2) Serves as an economy boost for all breeders. Each player will need a different species, so should boost the market & sink rate for breeders of all egg groups + Ditto

    3) Serves as a tutorial for new players on PokeMMO's breeding mechanics. This will teach you how to sort GTL & breed for specific egg groups, egg moves, natures, and IV's

    4) Introduces a heavily requested quest feature that has been missing for a long time. Every RPG & MMO I've ever played has some kind of quest/mission system that adds content and value to the post-game.

    5) Creates a new money-making method for people to farm depending on the reward for quest completion - if reward's price margin is good enough, could be worth farming quests on multiple accounts

     

    Other possibility I thought was interesting: At the end of each 3-month PvP season, you get a bonus reward (seasonal?) if you completed each week's quest during that season. Gives the experienced players more reason to participate long-term, as they'd probably get bored breeding every week just for 1 reward. I didn't put any thought into what any of the rewards for this idea would be, I was more interested in the actual feature and how it could work. Assuming the price of breeding 5x31's the reward should be pretty good though

     

     

    4 minutes ago, Himothy said:

    @Paul 51+ shinies but most of them were shinies most people just look as fodder and that shiny alfa eevee isnt a thing a regular player can obtain. And im also saying that there's more potential for the content like imagine people pulling shits that viable for pvp or cool too have not justa easy 5x hoard

    Even with the 1/30k shiny rate, you call hordes and common shinies fodder, so I can't imagine how you'd view them if they were 4x as common, like your original post recommended. I think it's absurd to suggest the economy wouldn't suffer with a 1/8k or 1/20k rate when we've already seen a massive decline in value over the years. I think it's important to have rare items in an MMO for people to work towards, otherwise you have a shallow product with everyone on the same 'level' of 'success'. If someone with 60 hours played could afford to breed competitive shinies or alpha's, what would be the point of having 600 or 6,000 hours played? 

     

    I don't know if you have experience with other MMO's but Runescape has a pretty cool system with some of their vanities being locked behind account age. The Veteran Cape is only available to accounts that are at least 10 years old, and I view that as a positive thing. It gives the hardcore players something to look forward to long-term. We have nothing like that here, but limited-time vanities and rare shinies are the one thing we do have, and trying to eliminate one of those wouldn't help the content creation or the playerbase imo

     

     

    I don't know why you keep using shiny wars as an example, there were 51 shiny pokemon found during team Mr's shiny war, including 6 egg hatches and a shiny alpha Eevee. The idea that the content is boring because it's just basic hordes is your opinion to share, but that doesn't make it reality. 

     

    As for Kyu's response, the game has been out for 10+ years so there isn't much to discuss on the topic. I think it's pretty lame to delete the replies and close the post, but nothing any of us say here will impact what they do. The rate isn't going to change

    7 minutes ago, Ryukaai said:

    Well I gave a more relevant and comparable example with the Sims and paralives above but the overall metaphor still applies even using those examples...My point is that the number one spot isn't guaranteed just because you're currently the biggest and best on the scene.

     

    Kyu may indeed not really care and that's not really relevant to my point but I know I would and many others would too if another game came along that rivaled this one and started to slowly overtake it as the best PokeMMO. I would hate to jump ship because of all the accomplishments and progress on my account but I would if they provided a superior experience.

    I don't play the Sims so it's hard for me to have an opinion on it, but games like Overwatch, Call of Duty, and pretty much every BR have all had copycats and clones, and none ever succeed. 

     

    *if* someone could make a superior product to PokeMMO there'd be an argument to make, but either nobody wants to because it's a small market, or nobody knows how to. Even when I look at the other Pokemon MMO's, they take all of the things PokeMMO does well, and go in the opposite direction. 3D graphics, non-canon storyline, no breeding system,, no GTL, extremely easy shiny rates, etc. Nobody has attempted to take what PokeMMO does well & improve upon it.

    2 minutes ago, Ryukaai said:

     You know... Block buster thought the same about Netflix...

     

    Mike Tyson was the champ until buster Douglas... 

     

    And Internet explorer was the #1 browser for years until chrome came along.

     

    My point is that you never know who's in the shadows taking notes about the uguu's in your armor and plotting to take you down.

     

    They may have had a ten year headstart and have a load of experience to back it up but that doesn't mean that the number one spot is guaranteed for the duration of PokeMMOs existence.

     

    Like I said bro they can afford to do as they please in the face of player dissatisfaction because they're pretty much the only horse in the race worth riding but if a legit Clydesdale shows up then the real race is on

    Pokemon MMO's are a very niche genre of video games, trying to compare that to something on the scale of an internet browser or professional sport is very farfetched. 

     

    and as Kyu has made clear in the past, this is just a hobby for him. I doubt he'd be devastated if PokeMMO *only* had a 10-year run of success. 

    3 minutes ago, Ryukaai said:

    If PokeMMO had a legit competitor that they had to contend with everything you said goes out the window

    It took them 10 years to build this project to where it is today, there will never be any competitor who makes a game as polished as this one. This gives them the ability to run their game in whatever way they'd like, whether you or I agree with how it's run.

     

    You can criticize them for how they run their game but don't pretend like they're hurting themselves or the future of the game. The game is not going to collapse because the forum dwellers, who make up a very small % of the total playerbase, are upset again.

     

    3 minutes ago, XanarchyNL said:

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    Nothing better than losing hours of progress because their servers crash & have rollbacks every week, Kyu is trembling at their polished, well-made product. 

    I've played the game for 6 years and they've never been on time on any of their announcements, you either learn to deal with it or move on and do something else with your time. No amount of backlash will change how they run things because the amount of people complaining on the forums is such a small number compared to the overall playerbase who will continue to buy RP and play the game regularly. 

     

    I do enjoy seeing people experience this for the first time though, brings back memories 😹

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    Edited by Paul

    People have debated how to revive these tiers for 5 years. Some changes help but they never last. It's nice having the option to play a niche tier but the reality is most people don't have any interest in them, regardless what changes they've tried making. 

     

    maybe you can't revive something that was never alive to begin with 💀

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