Luke

@FlacuSkye
 

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

@FlacuSkye
 

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

@FlacuSkye
 

@FlacuSkye
 

@FlacuSkye
 

@FlacuSkye
 

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

in general, usually you wont have use of any of weavile abilities. if you run a consumable item then go pickpocket because pressure isn't much of a help. in case of non consumable item like choice band or lifeorb id suggest pressure because pickpocked will have 0 use and pressure might help you in 1 game out of 100

@FlacuSkye
 

@FlacuSkye
 

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

I am tired of seeing this everywhere it's sickening 😞
 
0 Reliable eq resist, 0 reliable volt resistances... These teams sacrifice any competitive integrity and go full on matchup fish. How is this healthy? I thought shuffling tournaments was supposed to stop matchup fishing, then you allow this nonsense, it does make me question what the hell the vision is for PVP

Dugtrio now could trap more pokemon which he should not to.
 
Endeavor+eq kills chansey（0hp iv）, eq kills mienshao after 1 turn life orb recoil damage. With smack down it even kills Zapdos. With sash+endeavor, it could stops cm Suicune and Reuniclus sweep the game.
 
In my opinion, Dugtrio could keep it's role to do the counter play: ttar, zone, volcarona, kabutops etc. So most of time it should becomes useless just like it was two years ago with Dugtrio.
 
When it wasnt 100 atk and no Endeavor, it was fine. We could just nerf it back, if it is still not healthy, ban it.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Honestly TC did not even make a decision, it was a hung jury & it just got dismissed... Generally TC decisions are pretty unanimous, so something which forces a split down the middle definitely should be re-evaluated.
 

 
 
 
I was not active during this vote, but only 2 tier council members spoke about their opinion on the matter publicly which is quite frankly a disgrace imo. All the arguments for keeping dugtrio are so disingenuous and insane straw mans; reaching for the most tiny errors in peoples posts ignoring the important points. I checked the old thread and this post by the goat summed up the scenario in a matter of >30 words.
 
 

 
 
I don't care if Dug isn't strong vs you, I don't give a crap if in your PSL games dugtrio did nothing against you. The reality is dug is completely uncompetitive & restricts the tier on a level no other mon currently does (aside from Gallade which is a whole different issue). Bringing up pursuit, tons of random tiny points & comparing it to adv dug which has barely any momentum gaining moves like MMO's meta is ridiculous. Get rid of it. I am tired of 1/5 of the tier being unusable if you don't want to auto lose against these uncompetitive dug stall teams.

-> Nerf ATK to 80, Remove SD + Endeavor 

Congratulations to Flacusaurio & KazzKZ, they are qualified for the finals!
 

Tag:  Dugtrio is Healthy [Dug]
Players: PoseidonWrath, ArtofKilling, Luke, Axoa, xSparkie, GodXebec

In the last edition, it took two wins and a few high positions to win the title of Team of the Year. Nore already has three now and seems unstoppable.
 
However, it's still doable, as only 1/3rd of the competition is behind us. Good luck to all the teams! 
 

  Name of the Team Champions 2nd Place Semifinal 3rd Round 2nd Round 1st round Won fights Lost fights Penalties Points 1 [NORE] NoRematch 3 0 0 0 1 0 40 11 0 24 2 [Oa] Original 1 0 0 1 0 1 18 9 0 9 3 [SIÂ] Sic Itur Ad Astra 0 1 1 0 0 2 22 11 0 6 4 [LO] Romantic 0 1 0 1 2 0 21 15 0 5 5 [VOW] Solemn Promise 0 0 1 2 1 0 22 14 0 4 6 [SLSY] SoulSociety 0 1 0 0 1 1 15 9 0 4 7 [Aw] Asgard Warriors 0 1 0 0 0 0 10 5 0 4 8 [Lâst] TheLâstOrder 0 0 1 1 0 2 14 16 0 3 9 [CØRË] CoreSeven 0 0 1 0 0 3 10 11 0 2 10 [SY] Synergy™ 0 0 0 2 1 1 16 11 0 2 11 [NWÖ] ProjectBlueBeam 0 0 1 0 2 1 14 13 0 2 12 [RKLG] RagnarokLegion 0 0 1 0 1 2 8 13 0 2 13 [MGRB] MagmaReborn 0 0 1 0 1 1 9 9 0 2 14 [LÂB] LabËxperiments 0 0 0 2 0 1 12 9 0 2 15 [TYGO] The Young Goats 0 0 1 0 0 0 6 6 0 2 16 [VGC] Vermilion Golden Champions 0 0 0 1 0 3 8 10 0 1 17 [ZËRØ] Elitewarriors 0 0 0 1 1 2 10 11 0 1 18 [OU] OverUsed 0 0 0 1 1 2 11 10 0 1 19 [läva] läva 0 0 0 1 1 2 11 10 0 1 20 [BR] Brasil 0 0 0 1 0 3 6 12 0 1 21 [LØRÐ] TheLordsOfTheHax 0 0 0 1 1 0 7 8 0 1 22 [Límk] LoveDiecisiete 0 0 0 1 0 0 4 5 0 1 23 [PØRY] PorygonFactory 0 0 0 0 1 3 4 11 0 0 24 [ORZL] OrnaZul 0 0 0 0 2 2 6 12 0 0 25 [ENIX] Phoenix 0 0 0 0 2 2 7 11 0 0 26 [Fv] Fv 0 0 0 0 1 3 6 9 0 0 27 [RMW] RedmarkWarriors 0 0 0 0 2 2 7 11 0 0 28 [VØS] Vila Oculta Do Sal 0 0 0 0 1 2 4 8 0 0 29 [Exu] Penguin Statistics 0 0 0 0 2 1 6 9 0 0 30 [RÔSE] BloodAndRoses 0 0 0 0 0 3 2 7 0 0 31 [DD] DarkDragons 0 0 0 0 1 2 5 7 0 0 32 [ikka] PokeAyuda 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 6 0 0 33 [FaLL] LightFall 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 5 0 0 34 [LCW] LatinCrew 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 4 0 0 35 [RHT] Rare Hunter Team E-Sports 0 0 0 0 2 0 5 7 0 0 36 [OaSy] Original Society 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 6 0 0 37 [MS] Metal Slug 0 0 0 0 1 1 5 4 0 0 38 [OpTc] Optic 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 3 0 0 39 [HØRî] Culto del Victomy 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 40 [ÄØD] Angels Øf Death 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 0 0 41 [UMT] Mentes Unificadas 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 0

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Honestly TC did not even make a decision, it was a hung jury & it just got dismissed... Generally TC decisions are pretty unanimous, so something which forces a split down the middle definitely should be re-evaluated.
 

 
 
 
I was not active during this vote, but only 2 tier council members spoke about their opinion on the matter publicly which is quite frankly a disgrace imo. All the arguments for keeping dugtrio are so disingenuous and insane straw mans; reaching for the most tiny errors in peoples posts ignoring the important points. I checked the old thread and this post by the goat summed up the scenario in a matter of >30 words.
 
 

 
 
I don't care if Dug isn't strong vs you, I don't give a crap if in your PSL games dugtrio did nothing against you. The reality is dug is completely uncompetitive & restricts the tier on a level no other mon currently does (aside from Gallade which is a whole different issue). Bringing up pursuit, tons of random tiny points & comparing it to adv dug which has barely any momentum gaining moves like MMO's meta is ridiculous. Get rid of it. I am tired of 1/5 of the tier being unusable if you don't want to auto lose against these uncompetitive dug stall teams.

-> Nerf ATK to 80, Remove SD + Endeavor 

Honestly TC did not even make a decision, it was a hung jury & it just got dismissed... Generally TC decisions are pretty unanimous, so something which forces a split down the middle definitely should be re-evaluated.
 

 
 
 
I was not active during this vote, but only 2 tier council members spoke about their opinion on the matter publicly which is quite frankly a disgrace imo. All the arguments for keeping dugtrio are so disingenuous and insane straw mans; reaching for the most tiny errors in peoples posts ignoring the important points. I checked the old thread and this post by the goat summed up the scenario in a matter of >30 words.
 
 

 
 
I don't care if Dug isn't strong vs you, I don't give a crap if in your PSL games dugtrio did nothing against you. The reality is dug is completely uncompetitive & restricts the tier on a level no other mon currently does (aside from Gallade which is a whole different issue). Bringing up pursuit, tons of random tiny points & comparing it to adv dug which has barely any momentum gaining moves like MMO's meta is ridiculous. Get rid of it. I am tired of 1/5 of the tier being unusable if you don't want to auto lose against these uncompetitive dug stall teams.

-> Nerf ATK to 80, Remove SD + Endeavor 

Honestly TC did not even make a decision, it was a hung jury & it just got dismissed... Generally TC decisions are pretty unanimous, so something which forces a split down the middle definitely should be re-evaluated.
 

 
 
 
I was not active during this vote, but only 2 tier council members spoke about their opinion on the matter publicly which is quite frankly a disgrace imo. All the arguments for keeping dugtrio are so disingenuous and insane straw mans; reaching for the most tiny errors in peoples posts ignoring the important points. I checked the old thread and this post by the goat summed up the scenario in a matter of >30 words.
 
 

 
 
I don't care if Dug isn't strong vs you, I don't give a crap if in your PSL games dugtrio did nothing against you. The reality is dug is completely uncompetitive & restricts the tier on a level no other mon currently does (aside from Gallade which is a whole different issue). Bringing up pursuit, tons of random tiny points & comparing it to adv dug which has barely any momentum gaining moves like MMO's meta is ridiculous. Get rid of it. I am tired of 1/5 of the tier being unusable if you don't want to auto lose against these uncompetitive dug stall teams.

-> Nerf ATK to 80, Remove SD + Endeavor 

Returning it to 1.5x was the result of a 5-1 tier council vote in late November, unrelated to the legendary birds. To my understanding it was largely the belief that the initial ban/nerf was too hasty mixed with a dislike for 1.4x on principle.
 
We'll be introducing some more answers to Gallade with the raid update. Although we'd (devs) prefer to keep it in the tier until then to avoid the disruptive process of removing then reintroducing it soon after, the tier council is still allowed to ban it if they believe that it's too broken to wait. You're welcome to make a case for a ban in the OU discussion request thread.