Soul Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 This is some quality bait innit Link to comment
pachima Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I sometimes wonder why people are so aggressive when it comes to other people using nonstandard stuff. (in this game) The one thing I agree with all these dumbasses that are disregarding the OP is the fact golduck doesnt really counter excadrill, kabutops etc etc. However, I believe that was just bad wording and he meant countering weather in general, not the mons in particular, which it does. So, for the OP. Test Golduck and see if it works for you. If it doesnt, try something else, if it does, just ignore everyone in here cause honestly, I have given up in the creativity of this game long ago. Gimmyreaper and MHkaserz 2 Link to comment
Kamimiii Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Gimmyreaper said: 2 Hit KO of Hydregion (commonly used Hydregion moves can not defeat Golduck in 1 hit) Surf, Earth Power, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse [HYDREGION OUTSPEEDS IF CHOICED] Yes @DaftCoolio who the fuck are you ? Some random noob right ? Only been around for 4 years or something ? Don't make me laugh, I've been playing a shit ton of ladder and my Golduck was really usefull, I know the game better than you and you really should try being quiet for a while. > Surf+EP Hydreigon RysPicz, MaatthewMLG, DaftCoolio and 4 others 7 Link to comment
DeadGorilla Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 its not often theres a thread that i cant think of a reply for, but holy shit lmao. RysPicz and Suneet 2 Link to comment
Akshit Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 the best counter imo is money, for everything Kamowanthere 1 Link to comment
NikhilR Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 can you explain how use golduck with video? i always lose rain team in ladder and i cri more water than pelipper ability FNTCZ, DeadGorilla and razimove 3 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) That's some clever strats.... but after a lot of thinking, i just thought of a counter to golduck whilst using my beloved weather teams. what if i hit it then run? Edited November 20, 2018 by KaynineXL Link to comment
Toast Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, KaynineXL said: That's some clever strats.... but after a lot of thinking, i just thought of a counter to golduck whilst using my beloved weather teams. what if i hit it then run? then ur a little uguu Laz and FNTCZ 2 Link to comment
FNTCZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 So... I was bored and it only took me like 8 games to get a weather matchup with this random ass team I scrapped in 30 seconds with the amazing lead scarf protect golduck (not a doubles set btw) buuuut... HERE IT IS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN POINT PROVEN ALL HAIL OUR NEW OVERLORD @Gimmyreaper WHO IS COOLIO EVEN RysPicz, Quint, NikhilR and 10 others 11 2 Link to comment
MaatthewMLG Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, FNTCZ said: So... I was bored and it only took me like 8 games to get a weather matchup with this random ass team I scrapped in 30 seconds with the amazing lead scarf protect golduck (not a doubles set btw) buuuut... HERE IT IS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN POINT PROVEN ALL HAIL OUR NEW OVERLORD @Gimmyreaper WHO IS COOLIO EVEN >Hydro pump crit on victreebel "OH, OH BUDDY GOLDUCK IS BROKEN" Quality reaction from julio lmao Link to comment
pachima Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 mfw you calced golduck´s hp after rocks when game shows percentages. Link to comment
MHkaserz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) There are many variables in a battle, so you can't out-right say "Ey, I'll hit and run" or "Ey, I'll just kill the Golduck". 1- You can sac a mon to let the Golduck in, he doesn't have to tank a hit. (Better than getting swept) 2- You can predict a switch, and like with any battle, sometimes it pays off. (Risk reward concept) 3- People get caught off guard when they see a pokemon like "Golduck"; one of my best leads is Rapidash. (Yes, and it works) My own set for my Golduck goes like this. IVs: 31 x 25 31 31 29 EVs: 124 0 0 252 2 132 (OCD and shit) Nature: Modest Item: Choice Scarf Role: Revenge killer specially against weather teams Ability: C9 Moveset: Syncronoise - Ice beam - Surf - Focus blast Take your time and think about it... in "general terms" Sand = Surf; Rain = Sync; Hail = Focus; Sun = Ice - Focus can hit a predicted Ferro swap in for example. - You can get "HP electric 70" which is situationally better than Sync but I'm lazy. - Sync is only better when it comes to pokemons like "Ludicolo" & "Swamp". Am I high ranked on the ladder? No. I just like to think of sets for fun, since it is a game. We should be having fun, not ridiculing each other. Edited November 20, 2018 by MHkaserz Link to comment
Tsuruga Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 ^ Meh, anyone can be wrong. The jokes would not have lasted this long if the OP did not act so snobby toward valid criticisms against his Golduck. Link to comment
MHkaserz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tsuruga said: ^ Meh, anyone can be wrong. The jokes would not have lasted this long if the OP did not act so snobby toward valid criticisms against his Golduck. When communicating with another human being, the worst thing you could do is outright tarnish what they said. 0- You do all the following steps with a good spirit. 1- You say, ok you have an idea there. 2- You start giving tips on what are the holes in that idea if any. 3- You try to cover these holes if possible. 4- If not possible you give a good reason why it isn't possible. 5- You may give your own ideas afterwards. What the tc person did was: - Deny Golduck completely. (Could have said "it has a niche") - Tarnish the set in the topic. (Could have instead give a better set) - Say the set is useless but in a sneaky way. (Instead of saying it only counters X and no one uses X, he could have also modified the set to work better) - Think in a one dimensional way. (What if the 2nd stab doesn't OHKO the golduck who has a speed advantage now? If he would get OHKO-ed he could have given numbers to support his claim) - Give his own ideas back. (And later on ignored the original topic creator, while if he just wanted to help people, he could have made his own guide about the matter or link to one) The tc's ideas will definitely be met with rejection after the above. And then the OP will get defensive with all the following replies as well, since he is now under pressure and is feeling unpleasant, leading him to reply in a defensive way and hence he seems "snobby". Edited November 20, 2018 by MHkaserz Link to comment
Tsuruga Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, MHkaserz said: ... Thanks for the class. The OP did nothing wrong. MHkaserz 1 Link to comment
razimove Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MHkaserz said: What the tc person did was: - Deny Golduck completely. (Could have said "it has a niche") - Tarnish the set in the topic. (Could have instead gave a better set) - Say the set is useless but in a sneaky way. (Instead of saying it only counters X and no one uses X, he could have also modified the set to work better) - Think in a one dimensional way. (What if the 2nd stab doesn't OHKO the golduck who has a speed advantage now? If he would get OHKO-ed he could have given numbers to support his claim) - Give his own ideas back. (And later on ignored the original topic creator, while if he just wanted to help people, he could have made his own guide about the matter or link to one) I mean, he didn't directly attack the guy, it's just this guy already had another thread, in which people told him proper counters, and he still keeps hammering the same idea, even when proven it's not viable. Ok, some like pachima use really gimmick mons, and they do well sometimes, but those same people are the ones you rarely, if ever, you see winning any tour or even getting to the later rounds of the tours for the given reason that the mons are simply not viable in the OU metagame.@FNTCZ You're the goat man ahahah Edited November 20, 2018 by razimove WildHodor, FNTCZ and MHkaserz 2 1 Link to comment
MHkaserz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, razimove said: I mean, he didn't directly attack the guy, it's just this guy already had another thread, in which people told him proper counters, and he still keeps hammering the same idea, even when proven it's not viable. Ok, some like pachima use really gimmick mons, and they do well sometimes, but those same people are the ones you rarely, if ever, you see winning any tour or even getting to the later rounds of the tours for the given reason that the mons are simply not viable in the OU metagame. Ahhh! Well, in that case, that is that and this is this. If they had some sort of a past event together, it can't be helped. Ya some mons are sometimes outclassed indeed, that's why there are tiers, and even though some mons may seem like they are not viable, they can still have a good use here and there in the right team. Also I think the OP was talking about casual games, not necessarily ranked or tour games. It is not always about winning, sometimes it just feels good when you think of something and find a way to make it work. Cheers ^^ Edited November 20, 2018 by MHkaserz Link to comment
pachima Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, razimove said: I mean, he didn't directly attack the guy, it's just this guy already had another thread, in which people told him proper counters, and he still keeps hammering the same idea, even when proven it's not viable. Ok, some like pachima use really gimmick mons, and they do well sometimes, but those same people are the ones you rarely, if ever, you see winning any tour or even getting to the later rounds of the tours for the given reason that the mons are simply not viable in the OU metagame.@FNTCZ You're the goat man ahahah I see you want me to join tours. Link to comment
OrangeManiac Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 That feel when I unironically used Golduck in Doubles to allow KOs on Tyranitars after Sandstorm's Sp. Def buff is gone, and now this thread happens and Golduck just became officially a meme. razimove and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
razimove Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, pachima said: I see you want me to join tours. I actually do, sometimes it's fun to play vs your gimmick sets, like that hp ground skarmory in gen3 x) Link to comment
Takens Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, razimove said: I actually do, sometimes it's fun to play vs your gimmick sets, like that hp ground skarmory in gen3 x) Timid Weezing > right @pachima Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, MHkaserz said: - Say the set is useless but in a sneaky way. i thought i was fairly clear i thought it was garbage Link to comment
RysPicz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said: i thought i was fairly clear i thought it was garbage Smh you got OP's arguments and Julian's vid to prove u wrong and you still stay on ur opinion lol move Golduck to OU already FNTCZ, razimove and Suneet 3 Link to comment
FNTCZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 hours ago, OrangeManiac said: That feel when I unironically used Golduck in Doubles to allow KOs on Tyranitars after Sandstorm's Sp. Def buff is gone, and now this thread happens and Golduck just became officially a meme. mfw I actually won that one triples tournament by running golduck in 3/6 rounds... OrangeManiac 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 https://imgur.com/a/GYqwY6M This is the Golduck I've been using for many months now. I know Golduck ain't everyone's cup of tea but at least for me, it works well as a check to some mons and is quite often my team's ace. I know the accuracy is dodgy but I wanted to squeeze every bit of power I could, and I use Psyshock to check Gengars with TBolt and Life Orb Mienshao, but the very troll and gimmicky Mud Bomb could be used for Magnezones and Jolteons (but you can easily just swap into a far better solution, obviously). Of course, Ferrothorns, Milotics, Chanseys/Blisseys, and hard-hitters like Guts Flame Orb Conkeldurrs and Scizors exist, but other than that it's been solid on my team. From the looks of it, this thread is easily becoming more and more like the average YouTube comments section, but it's PokeMMO so it's close enough with its childish and worthless dramas and what not; so with that in mind, I'm just posting for the hell of it and getting the crap outta here as quick as possible. Knock yourselves out. Link to comment
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