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  1. 5 hours ago, epicdavenport said:

    I keep seeing screens being the main issue with espeon. The same argument was made for electrode as well. If screens are such an issue in NU what about getting suspect testing light clay?

    Correct me if I’m wrong but Magic Bounce doesn’t prevent defog, does it? It simply causes the user’s evasion to drop instead whilst still removing hazards and screens?

  2. 28 minutes ago, Onraider said:

    Some venusaurs could run Earth Power so its not entirely safe
    252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tentacruel: 78-94 (41.7 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery

    True, in which case common walls such as crobat and bronzong wall it. You need to build a team that covers both possibilities - fortunately tenta and bronzong have good synergy and cover both sets in only 2 slots. Mono-STAB sets with giga/wb/ep would still shit on this core however.. maybe this set would be optimal actually

  3. 6 minutes ago, Poufilou said:

    Tenta + one of the 2 RK I mentioned. Just saying it's not an optimal answer but is definitely good to mention as you did. 

    Both mamo and bisharp are already perfectly viable in the tier so it's not like their sole purpose would be specifically for venu.. I'm not saying this to justify venu staying in the tier, just confused by your original statement

    Plus there're also arcanine, absol, zoro, staraptor, ambipom which all offer strong prio

    However admittedly I also don't know much about UU speed tiers especially in relation to sun, so it may be the case that Venu is able to forfeit some speed for HP or defense EVs to combat prio RKs.. we shall see

  4. 1 hour ago, xMago said:
    +2 252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-Heat: 129-152 (82.1 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Crobat in Sun: 169-200 (88 - 104.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
    +2 252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Snorlax: 125-148 (46.8 - 55.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
    when snorlax sleep , is gg venu

    spdef lampent ez

     

    on a more serious note, tentacruel can at least whittle venusaur down with liquid ooze to make it easier to revenge kill with priority

  5. 11 hours ago, KaynineXL said:

    If there's one thing for me that I'd have liked is that the medallions be untradable.

     

    Buying a load of medallions from GTL in order to obtain the particles, get your alpha Pokemon or simply because it was better money in my opinion makes the event one dimensional because it's only ever worth doing one thing(the gym battles) or the other(the boss fight)

     

    This would have made those farming the gym leaders have to fight the boss in order to use up their rewards and those who want boss rewards would need to battle the gym leaders forcing players to play the whole event.

    Agree. Untradeable medallions would have propped up the value of the items/boss rewards a little longer too. It's two days into a two week event and the regular NPCs are already equal if not better as a moneymaking method due to market oversaturation

     

    Note: not so much a criticism as much as it is an afterthought. Tradeable medallions make the event very accessible to newer players also, which I assume was the intention given that it is a celebratory event

  6. 1 hour ago, Bertolfoso said:

    it's all in your opponent's control

    I disagree. Evasion boosts, by definition, take autonomy away from the opposing player. The advantage gained from this ability is wildly disproportionate to the risk of using defog, and the ability for the opponent to circumvent this advantage is completely at the mercy of RNG even if they possess the theoretical means i.e. a faster revenge killer or a priority user. Of course, there specific circumstances to which this doesn't apply, such as when using guaranteed hit moves like Aerial Ace; but in the grand scheme of things this is a microscopic caveat which doesn't really apply to the UU or OU metas.

     

    My issue lies with the fact that the threat of an evasion boost is enough to completely change the course of a battle without even coming onto the field, because if your opponent doesn't have rapid spin, they are effectively forced to keep entry hazards otherwise they risk losing the game purely to RNG. I think this is a dynamic that requires proper consideration.

  7. 40 minutes ago, Umbramol said:

    Since the new additions are to UU. I suggest apart from keeping an eye to serperior and feraligatr to also having a look at sun. Which said sun is the reason that I remain skeptical about serperior being an offensive Uber. Chlorophyll Venusaur might prove a way more difficult beast to handle and it also checks serperior. Serperior while strong and being able to cripple checks like crobat seems on paper that it can be somewhat handled. But this is not a definitive opinion. The tough thing about it is that the tier is dead. So I urge people to help out in the testing process 

    Agree, Venu is a much bigger threat I think. Serp excels as a scarf sweeper which means that it requires a fair amount of prediction, as well as needing a turn to start doing real damage. Venu on the other hand is going to be a monster as it has even more speed and doesn't have the downside of being locked into one move, alongside a much better base spatk stat

     

    But it's also a very valid point that they're unlikely to stay in UU regardless, as Luke said, so I guess we just have to watch and wait

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