Zymogen

I suggest testing Rhyperior in NU.

Also customisable role names

As an older player, I often look back at the pre-Unova tiers with a lot of nostalgia. With some inspiration from other games, it occurred to me that it would be an awesome idea if a secondary, retro server was implemented that was formatted to the old gen 3 game. Much like how WoW and Runescape have their respective old school servers, it could be a server rolled back to a time before GTL and automated matchmaking/tournaments, so that we could really relive the good old days of having to spam in vermilion to find a 6v6 tm ou battle.

As an older player, I often look back at the pre-Unova tiers with a lot of nostalgia. With some inspiration from other games, it occurred to me that it would be an awesome idea if a secondary, retro server was implemented that was formatted to the old gen 3 game. Much like how WoW and Runescape have their respective old school servers, it could be a server rolled back to a time before GTL and automated matchmaking/tournaments, so that we could really relive the good old days of having to spam in vermilion to find a 6v6 tm ou battle.

Hello everyone! 
 
As everyone knows usually many players record PSL games with some music, and they share it on Discord. This is useful for other teams because they can get some scouts from those games and also they can have some fun watching the missing Hype games.

The idea is the next:

What about recording the games with some commentators? 

In the past, I did that having JulianFNT and GBwead as commentators. They have been doing all the narrative of the game during the match while I record everything. That video has been shared on Discord and been accepted by many players and also been asked to repeat it. Sadly at that time was hard to do that due to some technical issues and also scheduling issues. 
 
So thinking about it. I would like to do it again in the next way:
 
Only record hype games. Have up to 3 commentators per game (I will be recording. I'm not gonna be part of those 3. I´ll just be the presenter) Take 1 minute to analyze and give a prediction about who has a better chance to win (maybe share statistics like actual score, if he won in the past something, etc). Have fluent English speakers players with competitive knowledge of the recorded tier. Give some good comments (trash talk) during the match, analysis, and other opinions. (everything will be following the correct conduct rules)  
I asked to gbwead to be part of this project, and he accepted. Some players asked me to be part of this, and I think they can give us some fun comments, analysis with their knowledge, and more. I will share the actual players who share an interest in this, and If they agree they will be part of this: 

@gbwead
@drewq
@ArtOfKilling

If you would like to be part of this. Please let me know. I would like to have different people for each tier or video as well. 
 
Please feel free to share the most hype matches of this week. I will be talking with the commentators to schedule together and try to record all the hype games possible week by week.

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idk encounters
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Preferred Tiers: OU, UU, NU, LC
Fluff: Im back
Donation: "all players signing up must donate to the tournament" but no one donating. Im poor but lets see

Hey everyone,
 
I hope you're all doing well! I wanted to bring up something that has been on my mind and, surprisingly, I haven't seen much discussion about it here.
 
One of the aspects I absolutely love about Pokemmo is the diverse range of cosmetics available. While there are some fantastic bike cosmetics, I couldn't help but notice the absence of a surf cosmetic.
Considering we've had the awesome experience of riding Lapras as a mount, I can't help but think surf cosmetics would be a fantastic addition to the game.
 
I believe this could be a great opportunity for both players and server funding. I can't be the only one who envisions surfing in style.
 
Let's not miss out on this potential addition that could enhance our gameplay experience and contribute to the overall creativity of Pokemmo.
 
All credit for the art goes to JynxedOnes.
 
Cheers,
Espaahhh

 
 

 

it would be epic to have a note in the battle log of exactly how much damage moves do each turn
 
i would even go as far as to say that it would be very epic. upvote and subscribe if u agree.

Titles are a staple in MMO games. In World of Warcraft, they are mainly used as a visual indicator of achievements in-game be they related to raiding, map exploration or PvP. In RuneScape3 they are obtained in very much the same way, but there are also other titles that can be bought from the gift store. 
 
I think titles would be a great addition to this game as they would offer different avenues down which tournament prizes could be directed. NikhilR mentioned the other day in the economy discussion thread that the main way to incentivise him to enter more tournaments would be to add different prizes that would give him more clout and allow him to stand out more than unusable 2x31 4x25 shiny prizes do, and given the general feeling of dissatisfaction towards current tournament rewards, I think this would be nothing but a unique and well-received addition. 
 
Moving away from tournament prizes, untradeable titles would also be a great way to accrue more donations from the gift shop without wreaking havoc on the economy and sparking up more and more explosive discussion threads. Moreover, titles would be a great way to offer some primitive form of achievement hunting in this game as they could be applied to things like completing the OT Pokedex (e.g. being awarded the title "X the Knowledgeable" upon completion), and also shiny hunting (e.g. "Bug Catcher Y" after obtaining 3 shinies in the bug egg group, or "Z the Jonulo Wannabe" after collecting 20 in total).
 
Maybe this is just another suggestion of "something that could be good but would never be a priority", but I feel like something even as simple as titles could innovate the scarce end-game content that we do have whilst also benefiting the people who spend their lives developing this game. Gimme your thoughts.

Unfortunately after discussing and thinking about it some, we cannot keep this thread.  If a pokemon is to be discussed at least within the framework of the existing tiers it needs to be done so within the appropriate tier thread, here for this pokemon and if deemed a problem, an official thread specifically for a pokemon will be opened.  Unless you are seeking assistance in which case I would direct you to the competitive assistance section, located here

cba to breed lmk if u are selling one
 
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The swarm of yesterday blessed me with a 1/30k .. seconds away from fading 

What is this?
 
This thread is being opened to discuss Cloyster being added to the NU tier by usage. Cloyster has fallen below the 4.36% cut-off allowed. Cloyster will be considered for a possible ban to Borderline 2 using a suspect test.
 
What to know?
 
Cloyster is a premiere set-up sweeper with access to Shell Smash (+2 boosts to Att, SpAtt, and Spe with -1 drops to Def and SpDef) as well as Skill Link which guarantees a 5-hit for moves such as STAB Icicle Spear, Rock Blast, and Pin Missile. It also has STAB priority Ice Shard to ensure it outspeeds and beats any revenge killers that might outspeed it or carry priority themselves. In the NU tier, there would be a reliance on defensive stallwarts like Quagsire and Clefable which carry unaware and hope to have enough HP to beat a neutral Cloyster with a base 125 STAB move at its disposal. Bronzor is another readily available option, although beyond that, there are few other checks which are not taking considerable damage from +2 STAB Icicle Spear or Rock Blast. Fortunately, Cloyster is limited by its poor speed and relies on +Speed nature to beat base 100 or better choice scarf speedsters in the NU tier when set-up. Additionally, the negative -1 drops to its defenses with Shell Smash open the door for fighting-types with priority such as Mach Punch Hitmontop/chan and Vacuum Wave Blaziken. Additionally, Cloyster can function as an effective hazard setter and Rapid Spin user, as well as suicide lead. It is very diverse, has a powerful punch, and has limited checks. With that in mind, we recommend a suspect test for this behemoth which may just be too much for NU.
 
Noteworthy sets?
 
Shell Smash: Icicle Spear, Ice Shard, Rock Blast/Pin Missile/Explosion, Shell Smash (Adamant or Jolly Nature w/ White Herb or Life Orb)
Mixed: Icicle Spear, Ice Shard, Hydro Pump, Shell Smash (Rash or Naive Nature w/ White Herb or Life Orb)
Choice Scarf: Icicle Spear, Ice Shard, Rock Blast, Razor Shell/Pin Missile (Adamant or Jolly Nature w/ Choice Scarf)
Defensive: Icicle Spear, Ice Shard/Toxic, Spikes/Toxic Spikes, Rapid Spin (Impish or Relaxed Nature w/ Leftovers)
 
Noteworthy calcs?
 
Slowking
Qwilfish
Bronzor
Quagsire
Hitmontop
Hitmonchan
Blaziken
Clefable
 
*A +2 boost via Shell Smash with White Herb was used for these calcs. This represents what is likely the most anticipated set in the NU tier.

Take these
 
I don't know if it's fair that a person who has access to all discords servers bets but I trust on the skill of my players

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I'M FUCKING DONE 

I feel that Sharpedo gets a pretty big nerf with the addition of Vaporeon

Venomoth and Haxorus should both be retested. The metagame in NU and UU has changed so much that the reasoning behind those bans no longer applies. 
 
In NU, Venomoth now has to deal with Mantine Haze, Altaria Haze, Golbat Infiltrator, Unaware Clefable, Assault Vest mons, etc. We didn't even have Blaziken in NU when Venomoth got banned. In UU, Haxorus has to deal with all the new threats that dropped in the past years. Tbh, with some exceptions of course, the UU tier has so many mons from the pre-sinnoh OU meta and in that old OU meta, Haxorus was not viable. For instance, Milotic, Hippo, Cloyster, Jolteon and Salamence were all OU pre-sinnoh and participated in making Haxorus unviable. We also have new threats that would not be kind to Haxorus like Ditto.
 
The only reason I can see why they would not be retested is that the timing just sucks with all the movements already happening. Lower tiers are overwhelmed. 
 
Back in 2016, usage movements were happening every month. Every month, all the mons over 4.36% would go up and all the mons under 4.36% would go down. There was a lot of changes each month and a lot of yoyoing. The 3 months cycle system was put in place to reduce the amount of yoyoing, but by doing so the amount of changes on the third month are completly absurd. The cut-off points for the first and second months of the cycle are just way too high and way too low. In the past 7 years, there has been 0 movements during the 1st and 2nd month. The 3 months cycle system was never designed to prevent movements during the first and second month, it was designed to make movements more difficult for these months, but not impossible. Because those movements are impossible for the first months, when the third month arrives, players have to deal with all the movements that have been prevented all at once.
 
Most of the movements could have happened gradually from January to March and players would have been able to adapt more easily this way. Dropping everything at once every 3 months is very bad design. Do something @Munya. I have suggested to you so many solutions for this problem over the years, just pick one already. And if the solutions I suggested don't work, at least put in the effort of coming up with your own solutions.

Well, sorry for some inactivity in these months, right now I will try to give a quick personal opinion of everything that goes down or up:
Toxicroak: I'm going to assume it goes up by rain spam with toxicroak and seismitoad, nothing to argue with this really
Seismitoad: Same as with Toxicroak
UU:
Ditto: I hope it goes down to NU even
Jolteon: 
Outside of the happiness that it gives me to know that this is finally the place where he belongs.
I really don't even consider it a problem, it's very hp reliant to hit ground types and in some matches you won't be able to do much if you choose the wrong hp, grass for swampert, ice for flygon, grass for gastrodon, ice for shaymin etc. Both are resisted by rotom heat, other than that we have very strong defensive stuff on the special side to support it (Snorlax, umbreon, gigalith) and things like lanturn or umbreon that can increase their usage because of that.
On the offensive side, we also have a way to revenge him while we have a krooko scarf to eliminate him without problems.
Milotic:
Empoleon is one of the most used and simply makes fun of him, shaymin in the same way, roserade can pressure him or configure spikes on him, jellicent is immune to scald and if he doesn't have toxic he can't touch him, we will have jolteon to pressure him offensively like rotom mow or defensive venusaur,  can also encourage the use of gastrodon, tentacruel or lanturn again it has the nerf pp as data.
Also to say that the flame orb set can eat a lot of chip damage when played and therefore is a bad idea
Salamence:
This is probably the biggest problem with the changes, but let's just say we never actually banned it, it went up automatically upon receipt of its hidden days before we made a decision on it.
We now have empoleon for a more responsive pick spec set, hippowdon for a mixed set or dd depending on the set, umbreon is still available to stop him on first impulse or count mixed salamence, swampert can take a hit from the dd and remove him from the move I would like to mention P2, but really his tenure in the tier is still uncertain, although Moxie can cause him to break salamence, I for one prefer to wait and see how it goes, I'm not a fan of quickban unless I want to feels really necessary so at least for now my decision is probably that this one stays until we see how it goes, maybe it's like staraptor it only took us a couple of days to decide it didn't belong in the UU. Probably the biggest problem is waiting for the set which will execute
Btw: I want to mention things like rhyperior/mandibuzz/ donphan that can hold up to the dragon dance set
NU:
Cloyster: 
I think that with this the truth I have more doubts than with Salamence, we have electrode and scrafty so a game of screens is really scary, the issue of their movements seems to me a disadvantage, but with the specific game you can eliminate a lot of things, I was trying to search for a specific account but its really tricky i only found quagsire but you may lose against some chosen raid set.
These are the ones that can sustain their hits at +2 normally
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 85-105 (42 - 51.9%) -- approx. 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Now remember this learns Missile Pin
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 170-210 (84.1 - 103.9%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO
 
Bronzor:
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Eviolite Bronzor: 60-70 (36.5 - 42.6%) -- approx. 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Cloyster Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Eviolite Bronzor: 80-95 (48.7 - 57.9%) -- approx. 98.8% chance to 2HKO
As long as I can only play it with psywave
 
qwilfish:
+1 252+ Atk Cloyster Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 85-105 (49.7 - 61.4%) -- approx. 89.1% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
In the same way, you can only do thunder wave or try to use toxic, casting mist alone would be a waste of time since it would boost the next turn in the same way.
hitmontop:
+1 252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hitmontop: 110-135 (70 - 85.9%) -- approx. 2HKO after Leftovers Recovery
But this one can't get a KO in return.
0 Atk Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 80-96 (64 - 76.8%) -- 2HKO guaranteed
 
Finally, vaporeon needs a scalding burn to win, while alomomola if it lasts longer but can only pray a burn or throw a toxic at it and try to stall
 Its high defense allows it to take sucker punches from the likes of Absol Honchkrow, and even Hitmon's mach punches, only being taken out by Blaziken's vacuum wave
252+ Atk Absol Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster on a critical hit: 69-82 (55.2 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster on a critical hit: 67-81 (53.6 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Hitmonchan Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 65-78 (52 - 62.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 
252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Hitmontop Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cloyster: 73-88 (58.4 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 
0 SpA Life Orb Blaziken Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Cloyster: 120-143 (96 - 114.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO 
 
Btw can use ice shard in +2 
 
Vaporeon: This has been seen before
 
Nidoqueen: 
This one has the moveset to take out the entire level if he wanted to, he can even run a bulky set with moonlight to heal negligible damage, but offensive teams can push him a certain way, I'm very doubtful, I want to see. . him in action, my mind tells me that "Ban is too much for the tier", but I want to see at least a little bit of him.
 
In the same way, I am aware that we have many changes currently that are too chaotic, but it is normal that it happens when new things are added, we are still looking at how to handle the issue of uses. 
 
 
 
 

jesus what kind of clusterfuck is this supposed to be?

Do people not see a problem with the movements shifts? The tiers are so unstable, every month there is a completely different UU / NU. Am I the only one that thinks that this is not good/normal?

Which sprite mod is this?

Hippity hoppity, you are now my property
 

 
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