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After having talked to several other doubles players, we have come to the conclusion that the current timer is bad for playing doubles. The current timer was designed so that you have enough time to play long games, but you are still forced to actually make the game progress. If you spend more than 10 seconds per move, you will eventually lose on time. This is great for singles, because these games tend to be long, yet each turn will usually take less than 10 seconds. In doubles, this is not even close to true. There is not simply twice as many options each turn, the number of options is squared, making each turn a lot longer. Furthermore, doubles games are much shorter than singles games, so the amount of extra time you are able to gain by the 10 second increments is significantly less. As a result, losing on time in doubles is a lot more common than in singles, and a lot of games enter a stage where both players are throwing out their moves due to lack of time. This is undesirable in a competitive game. My suggestion is to change the time increment from 10 to 20 seconds. This will significantly reduce the number of matches decided by time, as well as having very little negative impact. Seeing as doubles game rarely ever passes 20 turns, this is about 3 minutes extra time added. In a tournament, this amounts to a maximum of 15 extra minutes. Considering that doubles tournaments generally finish within 2 hours, this seems like a minor issue. Of course, the exact change is up for discussion, but extra time is clearly needed.

Welcome to the Official PokeMMO Team Tournament of January 2016. These are monthly competitive tournaments where teams can test their skill against each other. Players battle as teams (3 at a time). Teams can switch out which members compete between rounds. [LYLE] KingCheerios will be given the opportunity to defend their title from December. They have earned a registration slot. We will have three types of battles per round. These battles are OU, UU, and Doubles. There will be three matches at a stage, the matches will fall into place as followed: The top spot will be an OU match. The middle spot will be an UU match. The bottom spot will be a Doubles match Registration: Date: Thursday 28 January Time: 4:00 PM EST| 9:00 PM GMT NEW: All the players that are playing must be registered! The maximum of registered players may not exceed 10. Only those players are allowed to play for your team. One representative from their own team registers their players (posts edited after the tournament has begun will lead to DQ) Team Name: Team Tag: Registered Players: Team Captain: (Note: The Team Captain is who I will be contacting if I need to relay information to your team.) Alt Teams: If I notice your team is an alt team, when creating the bracket and reserves list I will put that team on the last spot of reserves. Details: 16 Teams 6v6 Level 50 OU/UU/Doubles Date & Time: Date: Saturday, 30 January Time: 4:00 PM EST | 9:00 PM GMT Location: Silph Co Channel 7 Clauses: Sleep/OHKO/Pristine/Species/Evasion/Hax Item/Bag Item/Self KO List of Clauses and what they mean. Banned Moves: Baton Pass is flat-banned, so no pokemon can use it. Tierlist: [spoiler] Ubers Blissey Dragonite Dugtrio Gengar Salamence Snorlax Tyranitar Wobbuffet OU Aerodactyl Arcanine Blaziken Chansey Charizard Cloyster Dusclops Espeon Flygon Forretress Gardevoir Gyarados Heracross Jolteon Kingdra Ludicolo Magneton Marowak Metagross Porygon2 Skarmory Slaking Slowbro Starmie Swampert Tauros Umbreon Ursaring Vaporeon Venusaur Weezing BL Alakazam Dodrio Hariyama Linoone Machamp Medicham Miltank Rhydon Sceptile Scizor UU Absol Ampharos Altaria Azumarill Blastoise Breloom Claydol Clefable Cradily Crawdaunt Donphan Exeggutor Granbull Haunter Hitmonlee Houndoom Kangaskhan Kingler Lanturn Manectric Omastar Pikachu Quagsire Rhydon Steelix Swellow Tentacruel Vileplume BL2 Jynx Fearow [/spoiler] Notes: Disconnecting during a match when result in a DQ. Do not block the Staff running the Event. If you disregard requests for you to unblock staff members then you will be disqualified. If the inappropriate tiers and clauses are selected, your match is voided, and you will be asked to rematch. Volpi Clause (requesting to change channels for your matches) will not be allowed for this tournament. Entrants are encouraged to uncheck "Render Overworld in Battle". (Menu -> Settings -> Video). Once your match is called you will have 10 minutes to report to the table. No time extensions will be given. Time clause is in effect for stalemate battles in round 1 and 2. When there is a tie (1-1) and the third match takes over an hour, a decision by the host/GM may be made about the outcome of the duel. Prize: 500.000 Yen each for the 3 winning players, guaranteed spot in next TT and sprites on the poster. Entry into Hall of Fame for the winning team. Host: LeTyrone GM: Ronax / Caracal Refs: xSparkie

Hi, I'm looking to trade ONE of the 3 following Shiny Pokémon. Lapras is currently with Caracal and it will take one hell of an offer to get it off her hands. So you guys will be better off making offers for Blastoise or Tauros. Please follow these rules if you want to offer on one of the 3 shinies. 1. Please make it clear which Shiny you're making an offer for. 2. All offers will be considered, however offers with the most PokéYen will be given priority! 3.Competitive Pokémon are accepted too. The max value I give a competitive Pokémon (no matter how good / rare / hard to breed it is), is 1 million PokéYen. This is not negotiable. If you include competitive Pokémon in your offer, please also post all the information about it. If you don't agree with this, please don't include competitive Pokémon in your offer. 4. No untrained Pokémon. 5. I want to break one of my shinies down, so please don't offer 2 or 3 shinies of high value in hopes to upgrade your stuff. 6. This is not an auction. If I want to trade one of my shinies I will. If I don't, then I won't. 7. Don't get your pants wet if I decline your offer of accept an offer that you consider worse than your own. Like I said, offers with the most PokéYen will be given priority. 8. PM's or forum posts are fine, offers given in game will not be taken very serious. Either way, if you decide to PM me please know that your offer may be made public to give others a realistic ideas of what's being offered. I think that's it for now. Here are screenshots of the Pokémon. EV's: 100 HP, 100 Defense, 68 Special Attack Date met: March 27th, 2013 [hr] EV's: 128 HP, 252 Attack, 128 Defense Date met: December 11th, 2012 (older than a lot of players playing this game now) [hr] EV's: Probably random Date met: August 7th, 2013 [hr] Small shinies I'd like to see in offers (that's totally not necessary though and won't prioritize your offer above others): Shiny MALE Jolly Pidgey or evo that with IV's that don't suck 2 Shiny Swellow (preferably one male) Shiny Chinchou I also have some smaller stuff like Mawile, Cacturne, like 4 Koffings and Weezings, Lickitung, Pikachu, Stantler, Hoothoot (if that one is even still worth something) and about a box of things like that. If you're interested in any of those for cash let me know directly in game. I think that's it for now. Offer away. I'll be checking back tomorrow night.

The timer was designed and calibrated by using singles. I already explained why that doesn't apply to doubles. Please stop posting in my suggestion threads.

Do you want to be the very best like no one ever was? Do you want a really cool achievemtn in your forum sig that people will recognize and almost no one else will have? If not, do you want to help set up the greatest unoffical endgame content to let other people fulfill this dream? To all greatest competitive teams of PokeMMO! I'd like to invite you to an Alliance, a Pokemon League, to coordinate the greatest challenge this game can offer to a lone competitive player! The idea is that each team sets up a Gym, with 1 leader and a handful of underlings. The Gym Leader will accept challenges from Trainers he deems worthy to face. He's in full rights to decline a challenge, much like in the *cough* anime *cough*. The rest of the gym trainers will thin out the challengers, as the leader doesn't have time to deal with all the storyline randoms who walk into their gym. Unknown challengers can prove their worth to the leader by taking on the underlings. When a gym leader is defeated, a gym badge will be awarded to the player, in the form of a cool glittery badge added to their Badge Case in their Forum Signature! PRIZE: Something a bit more swag than this screenshot: Badges would typically be very hard to get, so collecting them all is truly a pokemon master's endeavor! I'd like to invite the following teams to participate and set up their gym: [ÄURA] - Attending [LYLE] - Attending [Aw] - Attending [RÑG] - Attending [YÒLO] - Attending [CiX] - Attending [PKéM] - Attending [ÀvE] - Attending PM me, whisper me, write in this thread, do whatever to make clear your team is down to be a part of this. If any teams decline, feel free to volunteer here as a reserve.

When you try to trash talk but then you realize you should have stayed at home

Predicting against me when I beat K9 a few weeks ago ... You guys are dumb

Today is a very sad day folks. I sold my shiny shellder for 9m. He and I had a special relationship and was there with me through thick and thin during the last year. Hopefully one day I will be able to buy him back for a lower price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-gIF4jMgbY

Skarmory, Aggron, Lotad and 60M for Blastoise

Bowser and I facing off on Tuesday at 2:30 pm PST (5:30 EST). Hit like if you think either me or bowser will win

Well, first of all 10 seconds per move in Doubles match where there's so many moving parts is ridiculously low. Even bigger problem is that we have exactly the same timer in Singles and Doubles and that makes absolutely no sense at all. The 10 seconds / move for Singles is fine and all, there's very little or no outcry to fix that. What comes to Doubles timer I've yet to hear from a Doubles player they actually find this timer fair or to promote competition one bit.

That moment when LYLE only need 2 players to win TT.

True [spoiler][/spoiler]

Seems the question has been answered. I'll lock this thread now.

Not sure if Xela has a grasp on competitive play at all, but let me tell you this: in VGC (doubles) you get 40 seconds per turn to make a move. Just think about it. 10 seconds is nowhere enough for doubles here, it means you only get 6-7 seconds to think, and the rest to press the buttons.

Will the LYLE crew ascend to god status as they attempt to 3peat, with their eyes on the glorious 4peat? and the ever most elusive, the 5peat? Will they taste the sweet victory of 3peat as AW once did? Will they sit at the 4peat throne as KingBowser, JSTUD, and TheBloo once did? Will they surpass all that is known and taste status no one has ever done before? Only time will tell... ... LYLE #1

when you see a girl with a fat ass

You should at least read and comprehend the thread before posting some asinine response. The timer and meta are completely different things and have no correlation. Also there are already issues with the timer I've seen countless people lose in doubles due to the timer being so short. As panda has already stated the amount of options for possible moves in doubles is squared, therefor if we were to draw some kind of correlation between the amount of time it takes to think vs the amount of time given from the timer it should be vastly increased in doubles. Even if we double the length of the timer doubles battles would still last way shorter than singles battles so I'm really struggling to see how this is a problem in any way for this to be implemented. And please in future can we have staff that know at least a little bit about doubles reply to these threads. It would be beneficial to both parties and would avoid you making a fool of yourself again.

When Wiriketchup saw the power level of giantpipe [spoiler][/spoiler] ...

Ubers is defined as every pokemon OU is defined as every pokemon that is not banned to Ubers, this includes UU and NU tiering lists UU is defined as every pokemon that is not banned to Ubers or OU, this includes NU tiering lists NU is defined as every pokemon that is not banned to Ubers, OU, or UU, this does not include any other tiering lists That is all. EDIT: Not all Now, that is all. Credits to the ever present Goldeneyes.

just wanted to congratulate Goldeneyes on his stupid shiny plant that I didn't even want, and I hope you two are never happy together

You are avoiding the essence of the suggestion. Doubles is a completely different from singels as I'm sure you know. which makes me wonder why you seem to ignore that fact.

i don't know [spoiler]http://pokemmostaff.challonge.com/fr/blackfridaybrawlnov27[/spoiler]

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But the meta & playstyle of Doubles is essentially flat. There's no such thing as stall, there's no bans, there's not even such a thing as offense, really, it's just this one style of play that players have to play or they lose (e.g. Protect, Intimidate spam, Boosting moves + Follow Me, etc.) It's not like longer timers would reward anything in particular, except players making more well-thought-out decisions. So regarding your first point, there's no such thing as this being a problem with the doubles meta, therefore discussion should be focused on the timer itself. Players probably would take longer to play their matches if you changed the time, yes. But that's kind of the essence of the suggestion: players need more time to make decisions. It's not that one particular element of the metagame causes Doubles to be slow/hard, that's true pretty much anywhere, since you sometimes have to triple predict, double-double swap or choose the right time to execute a certain strategy if you want to be successful. TL;DR - seems like a legit improvement, I don't see any reason why Doubles and Singles should have the same timer mechanics, especially if players seem to think it'll improve the game.

You said there was an issue with the metagame, while in fact the timer is simply not designed for the metagame. That makes the timer the issue. If you actually read what I wrote, you would know that I'm fully aware of the purpose of the timer. By changing the increment from 10 to 20, it does exactly the same as it does now. If you thought I wanted it to be impossible to lose on time, I would have suggested to remove the timer. Alas, I did not. Both of your comments are completely obsolete, since my original post already contains all that information. (also, playstyle has nothing to do with this since this affects the majority of players, irrespective of playstyles)

Also because you're weak

Those people who didn't even understand that... Also i know that i don't have to win, cause even if i'm losing my mates easily get into playoffs. Better preparing to face them brah.

Raaidn VS Rendiz Enjoy! :) (Last tournament I plan to film for my current semester)

Ok, I'll bite. How the hell does having more options and choices to make each and every turn reflect on the metagame? In a singles battle, 10 seconds is fine as you only have nine possible options (most of which are completely ludicrous most of the time) which consists of choosing one of four moves or swapping to one of five other Pokemon. Now, considering a doubles match involves two Pokemon on each side, there are many more options. First, choosing a move. You have four moves and three potential targets, not counting self-targeted moves. That's already three times as many options per turn should you use an attack. Second, you can choose to swap. There are only, what, two options you could swap to? (I think most double battles are 4v4, right?) Third, you have to consider what your opponent is thinking. "How will my move affect them? How will their move affect me?" This isn't too bad by itself, but you have it do it twice every turn. You have to choose your move and a target (something you don't have to worry about in singles), choose your other Pokemon's move and a target, think about how each move will affect the chosen target (doubly or triply complicated if using a multi-target move), keep in mind the speed of every Pokemon in battle, and all the potential moves your opponent could make per turn. There is over twice as much to consider per turn in a doubles battle. Is having double the time per turn asking too much?

Wait, XPLOZ trying to shittalk? Tell us pls what is your w/l ratio in PSL and for how much you were bought ;^)

Time to take back the title.

People are so sensitive haha. Don't want your shiny post on forums? Too fucking bad, get over it.

Only if you follow and retweet.

Here goes [spoiler] I'd like you to announce the first gym of this series, lead by the PokéManiacs! Somewhere in the depths of Fortree City the PokéManiacs are chilling. They might be hidden first but just shouting "get your asses here, nerds" should get them turn up quickly. This gives you a chance to prove your worth to the leader, which is me. Possible people you can challenge to prove your worth are Parke, DynamicPyro, CaptainKek, SamuraiHunter (accepts only Doubles and this is your Doubles go-to guy), Raptori, Spaint, Ryo and I guess some other nerds here. If they have our tag it's fine. I will then listen to my comrades about your skills and I may or may not accept your duel. If you lose to me, I'm sorry but there has to be a cooldown because my time is valuable you know. (so like 10-20 minutes) Our badge: The Prophecybadge. Dubbed by our lord and savior, the Xatu. Also as we could be the first gym in the chronology, this badge will prophesy great things to come in your road to be the Pokemon champion! [/spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeHPFR3f0 *Flips hat backwards*

As long as Goldeneyes isn't a gym leader

Kind of cool. Not sure if we have the commitment for this kind of thing though. Can we just be giovanni and show up whenever we want? Hahaha

JIce's Ramen Noodle Shop I will only do 2 pokes per player at a time I will only do 3 players at a time the rest go on a list : P (only 5 ppl on the list at a time] I do not work under a certain amount of time so don't ask me if I am done with it I reserve the right not to serve you if I don't like you or your just a dumbass Priority brings you to the top of the working list (priority can be stacked) If you mail me pokemon make sure to put the form in the message as well Money is paid after I have EVed your pokemon 10k Discount for returning customers 15k Discount for friends 20k Discount for Teammates 25k Discount for friends that are teammates No Discount Stacking unless already listed People I am working on atm 1. BlueBreath 2. kikss 3.LazyTizzy Waiting List 1. Sadeko 2. Rendiz 3.iHanzel 4. 5. Pricing 25k for 252 HP 40k for 252 ATK 30k for 252 DEF 50k for 252 SATK 100k for 252 SDEF 30k for SPEED I give you a price if your doing some weird EV set 50k For leveling to 50 by itself (I hate lvling) 1.5k for each EV berry I have to use Notes: Extra Prices are outside discounts 25k extra for Priority 25k extra for Amnesia Brace **Priority is done by whoever wants it first If you want to be put ahead of someone with priority it will cost 25k more each time** Form (use it for each pokemon u want me to EV) Pokemon: Evolve : (Y/N) EV Spread: Level to 50: (Y/N) How much $ its gonna cost: Moves I want to keep: Moves I want to learn: IGN: Other Info?: Previous Customers iSleepyyy Rendiz NILC BiggieSax xKyokatsu Robofiend Mnemosyne Spaintakula Sadeko Mikrospaithx/iosifman Azzazz Kevola Sweendog TeamRocketHarry Bluejim LazyTizzy Eazydog iHanzel Kriliin hannahtaylor Havsha OldKeith Lazaaro Gutina BlueBreath Quotes [spoiler] [/spoiler] DONT PM ME IN-GAME unless you want to ask me questions about service or if I'm open just dont pm me about prices srsly

I is makes my first tournament Is OU, UU and NU are banned No walls no gordos 4v4, 15 players bracket

I'd like to give an honorable mention to overToasted, who against all odds, gathered 3 points and had tied second place in just the second half of the event! After getting her second spot threatened, she managed to secure it in a spontaneous, thrilling tiebreaker! I'd like to congratulate Slidingpanda for placing 2nd, with 3 points, and award her with her prize of $500,000! And finally, last but certainly not least. The supreme champion of unscrambling senseless letters! Kuziox for a well-deserved 1st place and $1,000,000, with 4 points! I'd like to thank all who came, who chatted, who spectated, and one more shout-out to all the players who managed to snag one point: KenLiao, goldeneyes, gunthug, TheArchon, Hydrawl, EeveeEcho. See you next time!

Wiri trying to get some recognition for his play? We played a very competitive UU match this season in the PSL =) [spoiler] enjoy brah [/spoiler]

>not acknowledging the true haxball king, flava

No doubles, rip

Let's see... Low defense, bad nature, not 31 speed. I think it is a fair price.

I'm thinking I have it mostly down. Looking something like this: [spoiler] [/spoiler] So it would feature your name, a background color of your choice, and I'd be able to hide layers of badges you don't own, unhide it when you get it, and recompile it every time into a gif from the master photoshop file.

Congratulations to Rendiz for coming in FIRST place! Congrats to Raaidn for getting SECOND place! Thank you to all of the staff that helped out.

Idea for the general thread format: [spoiler] [BANNER] Welcome! [Intro text: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah welcome.] Rules & Regulations [Rules yo: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.] PokeMMO Gyms: Note**Each gym format should have their own post and each team tag+name will hyperlink you to it. Its a table of contents** Aw - Asgard Warriors LYLE - KingCheerios AURA - Name RNG - Name PkeM - Name CiX if they stop being ass hats - Name AvE - Name YOLO - Name [hr] Next post [Asgard Warriors Banner] [BIG PICTURE OF BADGE OR SOME SHIT UNDER IT? OR AFTER THE INTRO?] Hello Challenger! or something [Welcome to the gym yo, you gotta battle us yo, we're Aw Asgard Warriors heres stuff about us blah blah blah Aw blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bpweidanoerng;ergnaelrkgjenkgjerngkejrgakejrbgkejerngkejrgakejrbgkejerngkejrgakejrbgkejerngkejrgakejrbgkejernerngkejerngkejrgakejrbgkejrbgekbker.] Text would be something like what orange wrote @ https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/60606-the-pokemmo-pilgrimage-8-gym-challenge/?p=1209862 Maybe following it should be a method of contacting this gym leader. Whether through forum, Eggplant, or the team itself idk [Aw] Gym Format: Maybe some text? idk Aw Leader: Frags - [Tier of Choice] Aw Trainers: Id say a 5 player maximum would be good Eloy - [Tier] ihatos - [Tier] walpayer - [Tier] aw player - [Tier] aw player - [Tier] [hr] next post for next team [hr] another posts, etc. etc. [/spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crzbpEyuY0w