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Our PokeMMO population has never been as high as it is now. The capacity of the server has been increased several times and we still have to wait up in queue during the weekend before logging in. With our growing population, our competitive scene is now significantly larger and yet UU/NU matchmaking still does not work. Imo, that's a real shame because UU/NU/Dubs/LC players are ready to compete, but they are not supported properly in game and that needs to change. When a tournament gets hosted, the number of players is usually decided based on the popularity of the tier. We never see a 128 players bracket for an LC or Dubs tournament, but we have seen 256 players brackets for OU in the past. However, for matchmaking, OU/UU/NU are represented equally. Within a day, there are 8 ranked matchmaking windows lasting 45 mins each for each tier. The OU competitive is insanely larger than any other competitive scene and yet our matchmaking system doesn't take that into account at all. Our OU competitive can sustain 8 ranked matchmaking windows per day, but our UU and NU competitive scenes can certainly not sustain 8 matchmaking windows. It's not realistic at all. The problem here is that whenever a UU/NU matchmaking window begins and players don't find a match, they stop believing they will ever find a duel and they will stop signing up for all other matchmaking windows. UU/NU players no longer believe in our matchmaking system and that's understandable because the matchmaking system has failed to represent them properly. If I'm a UU/NU player and I want to find a duel on the ladder, I would sign up when I know other UU/NU would also sign up. Therefore, if they were less matchmaking windows per day for UU/NU, the odds of finding a match would be much higher and people will regain faith in the system. For this reason, I suggest changing our matchmaking rotation. Right now, every day our rotation looks like something like this: OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) Imo, we should have a more representative rotation like: OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> Dubs (45 mins) --> LC (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> Dubs (45 mins) --> LC (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> Dubs (45 mins) --> LC (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> UU (45 mins) --> NU (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) OU (45 mins) --> Dubs (45 mins) --> LC (45 mins) --> Nothing (45 mins) This mean we would go from 8 ranked matchmaking windows for UU/NU to 4 ranked matchmaking windows for UU/NU/Dubs/LC. Imo, each competitive scene would be represented more appropriately and that should lead to greater odds of finding a match.

I'm just wondering if the devs could consider my idea. My idea is that we can see shiny forms of pokemon in the pokedex.

You're not alone, the legend @Tranzmaster couldn't beat the e4 either

It drives me crazy! Why would you (moderators/administrators) host 64 players tournaments on the weekend for a shiny reward when there is a mass of players connected? [20:42] And you host 128 players tournaments when there are only a few players connected? Are you guys dumb or what? I’ve been seeing this for a while and I have not said anything because I am lazy to go on the forum, but it's really too much now. I only play pvp and you deprive me of that! If you have a logical reason for such terrible tournament management, I expect an answer. gg gb le bg pour le tournois

so Luke asked me to do the champ sigs and since Zhiko would kill me for not doing his mvp and best uu sigs i've actually made everything OU: @xXBlu3BreathXx UU: @Zhikodark NU: @SweeTforU LC: @YEYOxD Dubs: @Busso Best Manager: @Laz Best Overall: @Zhikodark don't blame me for color, it's according to the player team theme.

First Place: ElvioLaoo (173 pts.) Second Place: asdsty (159 pts.) Third Place: Jefsu (157 pts.) Congratulations to the winners! Thank you everyone for joining us today! I also would like to say thank you to @Ki and @Mike for helping out! You guys are the best!

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bad moderateur It drives me crazy! Why would you (moderators/administrators) host 64 players tournaments on the weekend for a shiny reward when there is a mass of players connected? And you host 128 players tournaments when there are only a few players connected? I’ve been seeing this for a while and I have not said anything because I am lazy to go on the forum, but it's really too much now. I only play pvp and you deprive me of that! If you have a logical reason for such terrible tournament management, I expect an answer. gg gb le bg pour le tournois

Moved to suggestion box!

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i give up, i really can't do this shit no more

Server first?

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Details Automated Tournament | Single Battle | 64 Players | 6v6 UU | Bracket Date & Time Sunday 8 March 6PM UTC | 2PM ET | 3PM BRT | Timezone Converter Registration Registrations will open 15 minutes prior to the tournament. You can register by clicking on the PvP menu option (Masterball icon) and then select "Tournament Signup". You may only enter on one account. Clauses Evasion / Sleep / OHKO / Unique Species / Self-KO / OP Item Tournament Clauses Explained UU Ban List 1st Place Prize Shiny GIFT Toxicroak Lv.50 Your choice of nature, two moves, with IVs 2x31 & 4x25 & 1,000 Reward Points 2nd Place Prize 500 Reward Points 3rd & 4th Place Prize 250 Reward Points

It's ChinaMMO now, what did you even expect

Good advice, thank you. I've replaced life orb with yache berry and tailwind with protect.

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小心Yoop！

Yes Nu Matchmaking Good Idea

I'm not against this at all. The frequency of tournaments just isnt enough for tiers that arent OU. So it's basically hard to practice in actual tournament scenarios.

小心Yoop！

去充个数 别被吊打就好了

POKEmmo 现在只有四个版本哦 神奥地区 关都地区 丰源地区 合纵地区

i will miss you

Lmfao

Sure, but the way I see it this is not really about making it stronger or weaker, it's about making it more realiable to play against, more competitive if you will. Kind of the same reason sand veil was once banned from smogon but rough skin never was even if the later was preffered in most builds. You can accomodate and have a gameplan to deal with rough skin garchomp, even moreso if tank sets arise which are arguably less threatening or easier to deal with in a vacum, ofcourse these builds obviously support the team better but as a standalone they are a lesser threat. However, when your ice beam misses garchomp in sand as it goes to +2 that throws your entire gameplan out the window which is what makes dealing with garchomp inconsistent and that is the real problem and what I believe the angle of the discussion is meant to be.

32 pls Happy bday

谢大佬帮我发

Changelog: 06/03/2020 Bug Fixes Fixed Swarm NPCs causing crashes on clients with follower mod overrides

I mean...exactly? 'it has sounds for a reason' and you want to remove some of them

Afaik there hasn't been serious discussion on whether it's needed yet. If I had to pick, I think our favorite method of nerfing Garchomp would be to remove its evasion in PvP, effectively giving it no ability. Rough Skin Chomp is still very strong

30.880 encounters @pikabuuh

Excelente mod

same

Hoenn 10xHP - Hariyama @Victory Road 10xATK - Mightyena @Route120 10xDEF - Torkoal @Magma Hideout 10xSATK - Gloom @Route 119 10xSDEF - Tentacruel @Battle Frontier 10xSPEED - Linoone @Route 121 Ctrl + F to search Route 102 x5 Marill 10HP Route 110 x3 Electrike Route 111 x3 Trapinch Cacnea (Night) Sandshrew (Day/Morning) Marill Surskit Route 112 x3 Numel Route 113 x3 Spinda Route 114 x3 Seedot (Day/Morning) Zangoose (Day/Morning) Lotad (Night/Morning) Seviper (Night/Morning) Marill x5 10HP Route 115 x5 Swellow (Winter) 10SPEED Jigglypuff (Winter) Swablu (Winter) Route 117 x3 Roselia Oddish (Night) Volbeat (Night) Illumise (Night) Lombre x5 Route 118 x5 Linoone Electrike Route 119 x5 Gloom 10SATK Route 120 x5 Mightyena 10ATK Marill 10HP Route 121 x5 Linoone 10SPEED Route 123 x5 Linoone Mightyena Surskit Artisan Cave x5 Smeargle Cave of Origin x5 Golbat 10SPEED Desert Underpass x5 Loudred 10HP Fiery Path x3 Numel Torkoal Granite Cave x3 (Flash) Makuhita F1 Aron B1 Zubat B2 Mawile B2 (Day/Morning) Sableye B2 (Night/Morning) Jagged Pass x3 Machop Spoink Magma Hideout x5 (Rock Smash & Strenght) Torkoal R1 10DEF Geodude R2 DAMP Graveler R3 DAMP Meteor Falls x5 Lunatone R2 F1 (Waterfall) Solrock R2 B1 (Waterfall) Solrock F1 (Day Morning) Lunatone F1(Night) Mirage Tower ??? Sandshrew Trapinch Cacnea (Night) Mt. Pyre x5 Shuppet F1 Duskull F6 Vulpix Meditite (Day/Morning) New Mauville x3 Magnemite R1 Voltorb R2 Petalburg City x5 Marill Surskit Rusturf Tunnel x3 Whismur Scorched Slab x5 Zubat Golbat Seafloor Cavern x5 Golbat 10SPEED Shoal Cave x5 Sealeo B1 Ice room 10HP Golbat 10SPEED Snorunt Ice room Sky Pillar x5 (Mach-Bike) Ariados F1 10ATK Banette F1 10ATK Golbat F3 Claydol F3 F5 10SDEF Altaria F5 10SDEF Sootopolis City x5 Magikarp Underwater x5 (Dive) Clamperl Route 124 Lanturn Route 126 10HP Corsola??? Chinchou??? Victory Road x5 (Strength, Rock Smash, Flash & Waterfall) Hariyama F1 10HP Lairon B1 10DEF Medicham B2 10SPEED Golbat 10SPEED

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第一部分：队伍详细介绍 晒队先晒分，原贴主由于时间关系，排位一共只打了25场，但胜率却高达92%，排名也暂时升至73名 队伍预览： 接下来是每个成员的介绍： 河马兽 (M) @ 吃剩的东西 特性: 扬沙 努力: 252 HP / 222 特防 / 36 速度 淘气性格 (+Def, -SAtk) - 地震 - 隐形岩 - 偷懒 - 剧毒 个体推荐（31 /31/31/X/31/31） 简述：落沙队的首发，混耐河马兽是挡双刀的配置，连同美纳斯进行联防能挡住大部分输出一般的精灵，也可以有效地和空间队利用偷懒消耗空间回合数。本队的岩钉手兼电免，36点速度努力是为了快过50线（包括热门的小蛋和老匠），先手地震输出或者偷懒回复。 长毛狗 (F) @ 讲究头巾 特性: 挖沙 努力: 252 物攻 / 4 特防/ 252 速度 固执性格 (+Atk, -SAtk) -报恩 -疯狂伏特 - 蛮力 - 追打 个体推荐（31/31/31/X/31/31） 简述：落沙队的亮点NU分级的长毛狗，具有挖沙特性的宝可梦里面的第二角色，通常作为龙头地鼠的替补，表面看上去全方位被龙头地鼠吊打，属性相性上比不上龙头地鼠的地+钢抗性，种族值总和却相较于鼹鼠高出一截，但大部分pm都有自己的优势，和龙头地鼠进行对比就能发现长毛狗有很多龙头地鼠做不到的事，技能更多打击面更广，为了保证输出，所以长毛狗选择携带讲究头巾，比较考验先读操作。配合先读能2hko突破常见的物盾盔甲鸟（51.4 - 60.8%)）和火珠美纳斯（41.5 - 49.5%)）,蛮力用于补盲，追打能追死对队伍威胁大的pm和幽灵、超能力系脆皮，配合沙暴效果更佳，其中4点努力加到特防上面是为了避免下载特性的精灵（主要是多边兽2）增加特攻，在沙暴内战的时候满血有小概率（85- 100.6%)12.5% to OHKO）被生命玉固执鼹鼠1hko，但大多数时候能留场蛮力反杀。长毛狗是本队的补刀兼高速救场手，沙暴下拥有高速高输出广打击面的它能救下很多场(蝶舞龙舞等等)。在沙暴队中挖沙特性的长毛狗的威胁并不比龙头地鼠低，龙头地鼠有着更好的属性种族值，单兵作战能力更强，长毛狗则比较依赖沙暴，但绝对是沙暴队的一名猛将。 盔甲鸟 (M) @ 凸凸头盔 特性: 坚硬 努力: 252 HP / 252 物防 / 4速度 淘气性格 (+Def, -SAtk) - 羽栖 - 撒菱 - 清除浓雾 - 吹飞 个体推荐（31/ X /31/ X /31/31） 简述：本队的除雾及钉手，地钉+除雾的组合看上去是自相矛盾，但由于本队有暴飞龙的存在，我方场地没钉还是很需要的，除雾要结合场上情况权衡利弊去点。吹飞能破大部分物攻强化，包括沙暴下的剑舞龙头地鼠ut，配合地钉效果更佳，跟河马兽联防能打乱双返队的节奏，由于没有携带攻击技能，所以要适当先读对面的挑拨进行吹飞或者轮换。 美纳斯 (F) @ 吃剩的东西 特性: 神秘鳞片 努力: 156 HP / 222 物防 / 132 特防 温和性格 (+SDef, -Atk) - 冷冻光线 - 黑雾 - 自我再生 - 热水 个体推荐（31/ X /31/31/31/31） 简述：混耐美纳斯,配合火珠物耐惊人，但美纳斯也有着很不错的特耐种族值，剩饭温和美纳斯做特盾能挡住龙系的输出(讲究眼镜刺龙王流星群2连发伤害70-83.1%)（天真6V暴飞龙流星群+龙爪伤害78%-94.4%）（讲究眼镜恶龙龙波37.8-44.7%)）冰光进行反杀，特防拉到这个程度也是为了挡住雨天大嘴鸥的暴风输出（眼镜内敛大嘴鸥-伤害44.2 - 52.6%)），黑雾几乎能破所有中低速强化，剑舞螳螂冥想细胞鬼灯大蛋皮可西呆河马大胆波克基斯诅咒卡比充电光多边2腹鼓水鼠健美混混等一系列中慢速强化。美纳斯也是本队的第一吃烧伤精灵，看见对面要使用鬼火热水等技能就能上美纳斯，蹭个烧伤物耐会变得更加硬....... 人造细胞卵 特性: 魔法守护@吃剩的东西 努力: 252 HP / 252 物防 / 4 速度 大胆性格 (+Def, -Atk) - 冥想 - 精神冲击 - 真气弹 - 自我再生 个体推荐（31/ X /31/31/31/31） 简述：吃状态小能手，专吃剧毒状态。物耐细胞对受队威胁巨大，也是本队的破受小能手，利用暴飞龙和钉子把对面耗得差不多之后就能冥想清场了，也是完挡大小蛋这俩毒瘤的宝可梦，能完挡不带硬撑的老匠，携带硬撑的老匠可以用盔甲鸟-河马兽-细胞-暴飞龙的联防进行耗死。 暴飞龙(F) @ 龙之牙 特性: 威吓 努力: 92 物攻 / 166 特攻 / 252 速度 天真性格 (+Spd,-SDef) -喷射火焰 - 羽栖 - 流星群 - 龙爪 个体推荐（31/31/31/31/31/31） 简述：6V天真暴飞龙是本队的主要输出手和破盾手，携带龙之牙和鸟栖增加续航能力，在沙暴下生命宝玉带来的副作用对暴飞龙太大，加了大量特攻是为了流星群2hko突破河马兽，死神棺等长毛狗不能突破的物盾，同时暴飞龙作为本环境最高龙星群输出的精灵，加了大量特攻的龙星群能给很多精灵造成巨大伤害（满HP努力的老匠73.5 - 86.7%）（大胆波克基斯51.5 - 60.9%)）（满HP细胞58.7 - 69.4%）（满HP大嘴鸥89.1 - 105.4%)，92的物攻努力能大概率2hko踩钉飞鱼（90%）和稍微保证物攻端的输出。 第二部分：总结 以上是落沙的成员介绍,沙暴队的一个很大的特点就是能攻能受，每个沙暴队成员的单兵作战能力都很强，不依赖沙暴，组合一起又能组成联防能力很强的队伍，落沙队的思路是配合沙暴的磨血效果和钉子压血线进行收割，拥有不错的联防体系，对操作要求不高，在这里分享给大家，感谢阅读。 第三部分：伤害计算展示 长毛狗 疯狂伏特 VS 极限物耐钢鸟——必定2回合击杀 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland WildCharge vs. 248 HP / 252+Def Skarmory: 88-104 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 疯狂伏特 VS 物耐开了烧伤的美纳斯——23.8%2回合击杀,但这种满血状态几乎不存在 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252+Def Marvel Scale Milotic: 84-100 (41.5 - 49.5%) -- 23.8% chance to 2HKO afterburn damage 蛮力 VS 极限物耐的剩饭坚果哑铃——18.8%的概率2回合击杀 252+ Atk Choice Band StoutlandSuperpower vs. 252 HP / 252+Def Ferrothorn: 122-144 (67.4 - 79.5%) -- 18.8%chance to 2HKO after Leftoversrecovery 报恩 VS 极限物耐的辉石小蛋——无钉情况下59%的概率能2回合击杀 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 244 HP / 252+ DefEviolite Chansey: 165-195 (46.3 - 54.7%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO 追打 VS 无耐耿鬼（不触发特效）—— 发动特效必定死，不发动75-88.2% 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Pursuit vs. 4 HP / 0 DefGengar: 102-120 (75 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 追打 VS 无耐水晶灯火灵（不触发特效）——54.4 - 64.7% 252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Pursuitvs. 4 HP / 0 DefChandelure: 74-88 (54.4 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 长毛狗拥有85/90/90的三围，可以大概率吃下固执生命玉鼹鼠的地震——87.5% 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquakevs. 0 HP / 4 DefStoutland: 136-161 (85 - 100.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO 极攻的CB螳螂伤害 VS 无耐长毛狗——58.1-68.1% 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP/ 4 Def Stoutland: 93-109 (58.1 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 美纳斯 胆小讲究眼镜三首恶龙龙波 VS美纳斯——踩钉后也必定不会被2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon DragonPulse vs. 156 HP / 132+SpD Milotic: 72-85 (37.8 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKOafter Stealth Rock andLeftovers recovery 内敛讲究眼镜刺龙王2连发流星群 VS 美纳斯——不会死可再生回血 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra DracoMeteor over 2 turns vs.156 HP / 132+ SpD Milotic: 133-158 (70 - 83.1%) -- nota KO 内敛讲究眼镜大嘴鸥 VS美纳斯 ——踩钉后会被大概率2hko，无钉则不会 252+ SpA Choice Specs Pelipper Hurricanevs. 156 HP / 132+ SpDMilotic: 84-100 (44.2 - 52.6%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKOafter Stealth Rock andLeftovers recovery 龙星龙爪2连发的天真暴飞龙 VS 美纳斯 ——踩钉后会有16%的概率2HKO 164 SpA Life Orb Salamence Draco Meteorvs. 156 HP / 132+ SpDMilotic: 82-97 (43.1 - 51%) --92 Atk Life Orb SalamenceDragon Claw vs. 156 HP /222 Def Milotic: 78-94 (41 - 49.4%) -- 16% chance to2HKO after Stealth Rock andLeftovers recovery 暴飞龙 流星群 VS 满HP努力的修建老匠——必定2回合击杀 164 SpA Draco Plate Salamence DracoMeteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpDConkeldurr: 156-184 (73.5 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 流星群 VS 大胆波克基斯——51.5 - 60.9% 164 SpA Draco Plate Salamence DracoMeteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpDTogekiss: 99-117 (51.5 - 60.9%) 流星群 VS 满HP努力的细胞——89.1 - 105.4% 164 SpA Draco Plate Salamence DracoMeteor vs. 248 HP / 0 SpDReuniclus: 127-150 (58.7 - 69.4%) 流星群 VS 满HP努力的大嘴鸥——89.1 - 105.4% 164 SpA Draco Plate Salamence DracoMeteor vs. 248 HP / 0 SpDPelipper: 148-175 (89.1 - 105.4%)

I joined in 2012, but I don't know if that fits your definition of a "veteran" - if that's the person who talks the most on /global, that's not me. If you feel that yours' & your surroundings' opinions are " everyones'' " opinion it only indicates your inmature approach, or to be exact that your inference is simplified and based on heuristics. Some players, even veterans, like to play this game for its' story and content not related to competitive play - so Johto would be a nice addition for those people. For you, Johto might be boring and not worth the while, but according to the numer of topics about Johto,it only points out that some people disaggree with you. At least discuss the topic constructively and try to look at the others' opinion.

no, it isn't

yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man