gbwead Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) PokeMMO World Cup 6 Discord Server Please refer to the Rules & Guidelines for Scheduling, Disconnections and Cheating. Please refer to the PokeMMO Official Tier Lists thread for OU, UU, NU and Dubs. Please refer to the Little Cup Rules for LC. Join the Little Cup Club in order to get access to further tiering information. Group Stage - Week 3 Betting Thread Group A Ecuador (2) vs Argentina (4) OU: GodHell Vs Enchanteur OU: Busso Vs Frags UU: AngeloDLZ Vs Zhiko NU: Rigox Vs LKrenz Dubs: Mugi Vs Killua LC: YeyoXD Vs Arca Australia (2) vs Cuba (4) OU: Michielleus Vs xxLazaro OU: AFClilly Vs KiwamiU UU: IOkkotsu Vs TristanGC NU: YamiGod Vs ZDeviljho Dubs: PollarPallas Vs Shiroecchi LC: zepexbaka Vs KilluaCuba Group B Germany (3) vs Peru (3) OU: CaptnBaklava Vs SecretplayerZ OU: ChuckUnso Vs Tear UU: Pottina Vs zMisaka NU: katangaaa Vs JulioZM Dubs: Bienenstich Vs Eungnam LC: BartekDolar Vs SebastianRMV China (3) vs Mexico (0) OU: sannuo Vs Aleparati OU: newnewdemon Vs ErickECG UU: zzhoplayerzz Vs Cfaustorolando NU: zhaoyugod Vs IHasvik Dubs: lovesinile Vs Akarukokuyo LC: forfour Vs Inafable Group C Venezuela (3) vs Belgium (3) OU: DiosdadoCabello Vs Schuchty OU: Aisker Vs Eastsiiderboy UU: StokeAG Vs LeZenor NU: wBanw Vs Tonylovsky Dubs: Gabuchox Vs Gilvy LC: Skylux Vs Zbleeex All matches vs Africa for Week 1, Week 2 and Week 3 are void. Group D USA (2) vs Brazil (4) OU: iRusher Vs Elvessss OU: Susume Vs HogniRagnar UU: Sargeste Vs Wallaro NU: DrewQ Vs Fefeco Dubs: Nuzlocked Vs Jhowteon LC: xSparkie Vs DridrigoFK All matches vs Colombia for Week 1, Week 2 and Week 3 are void. Spain (2) vs Colombia (4) - Friendly Battles OU: Lejovi Vs AlejovishGB OU: Brumoso Vs Perzug UU: DrTylerGrey Vs AlfonsoC NU: JasonSparrowX Vs TheLudus Dubs: RohMartinez Vs Mertie LC: Onraider Vs xJonathan Matches must be played in Vermilion Ch4 Outside and announced in this thread or on the World Cup Discord Server at least 10 minutes prior to their start. Once a player is subbed out, that player is out for the week and can no longer be subbed in. Deadline Sunday 24th @ 8:59 PM UTC Edited September 30, 2023 by gbwead Queza, camilo7, ZeknShooter and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 I did not receive a lineup for Colombia, so Spain has no one to face. Colombia can't qualify no matter what and Spain remains 1st of Group D whatever the outcome of this week. LeJovi 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, gbwead said: Dubs: Necasintrouble Vs Jhowteon Necasintrouble is subbed out for @Imabetheverybest1. @JhowCrazy @drewq @DridrigoFK JhowCrazy and drewq 2 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 hours ago, gbwead said: OU: ChuckUnso Vs Mlhawk NU: katangaaa Vs xLunethx Mlhawk is subbed out for @TiburoncinDS. Luneth is subbed out for @JuLioZm. @CHUCKunso @katangaaa @xLuneth @Eipott Eipott 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 14 hours ago, gbwead said: LC: awallz Vs Boyscap Boyscap has been subbed out for @DridrigoFK. @awaLLz @drewq awaLLz 1 Link to comment
LeJovi Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Ban Colombia and Africa from future world cups, ty TohnR 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 hours ago, gbwead said: OU: ZeknShooter Vs Eastsiiderboy Zeknshooter has been subbed out by @CristhianArce. @Mkns1070 @Gabriel20 @East Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 Following up with some discussions I had with members of Team Colombia and Team Africa, I want to make it clear that Colombia and Africa did not break any rule and have shown good sportmanship throughout the event. The reason I said their matches are void for Week 1, Week 2 and Week 3 is to make sure the remaining teams are on equal grounds moving forward. In the case of Canada vs Africa, a 6-0 for Canada would be extremely advantageous for Canada and disadvantegous for Venezuela, so to avoid accusations of match fixing or cheating (just a precaution, not saying that would happen); I think it's best if teams that are eliminated do not have an impact on the records of teams still competing. With that being said, I have no objections if Canada and Africa want to play friendly matches (with no impact on the official WC stats) and the same goes for Spain and Colombia. I leave that up to the captains. @ArtOfKilling, @MathewMat, @pablobacas and @Edwardinho, send me a new lineup in the next 24 hours if you want to play friendly matches this week. smadagos 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Potential Tie Breakers Group A Cuba & Argentina Ecuador & Cuba (for 1st place) Group B Peru, China & Germany China, Germany & Mexico Group C Venezuela & Canada Group D USA & Brazil Given the number of potential tie breakers, it seems very likely that there will be tie breakers next week. Here are my suggestions for each scenario: First Scenario: 2 teams fighting for 1 spot Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice): 3 days Bo5 (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days Second Scenario: 3 teams fighting for 1 spot 3 Teams Round Robin (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days (15 duels total / 10 duels to prepare per team) 3 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x3): 3 days (9 duels total / 6 duels to prepare per team) Third Scenario: 4 teams fighting for 2 spots 2 Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice): 3 days 2 Bo5 (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days 4 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x4): 7 days (36 duels total / 12 duels to prepare per team) Fourth Scenario: 5 teams fighting for 2 spots 1 Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice) + 3 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x3): 3 days 1 Bo5 ( OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC) + 3 Teams Round Robin (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days 5 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choice x4 / Opposing Captain Choice x 4): 7 days (20 duels total / 8 duels to prepare per team) Fifth Scenario : 6 teams fighting for 3 spots 3 Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice): 3 days 3 Bo5 (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days 6 Teams Round Robin (Not sure how to make this work) Sixth Scenario: 7 teams fighting for 3 spots 2 Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice) + 3 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x3): 3 days 2 Bo5 (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC) + 3 Teams Round Robin (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days 7 Teams Round Robin (Not sure how to make this work) Seventh Scenario: 9 teams fighting for 4 spots 3 Bo3 (OU / Captain Choice / Captain Choice) + 3 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x3): 3 days 3 Bo5 (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC) + 3 Teams Round Robin (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days 9 Teams Round Robin (Not sure how to make this work) Let me know what you guys think. Edited September 18, 2023 by gbwead Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 18 hours ago, gbwead said: Spain (0) vs Colombia (0) - Friendly Battles OU: Lejovi Vs AlejovishGB OU: Brumoso Vs Perzug UU: DrTylerGrey Vs AlfonsoC NU: JasonSparrowX Vs TheLudus Dubs: RohMartinez Vs Mertie LC: Onraider Vs xJonathan Lineups from Spain and Colombia have been received. Thank you @pablobacas & @xWhinkZ. Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, gbwead said: Following up with some discussions I had with members of Team Colombia and Team Africa, I want to make it clear that Colombia and Africa did not break any rule and have shown good sportmanship throughout the event. The reason I said their matches are void for Week 1, Week 2 and Week 3 is to make sure the remaining teams are on equal grounds moving forward. In the case of Canada vs Africa, a 6-0 for Canada would be extremely advantageous for Canada and disadvantegous for Venezuela, so to avoid accusations of match fixing or cheating (just a precaution, not saying that would happen); I think it's best if teams that are eliminated do not have an impact on the records of teams still competing. I think for the Canada vs Africa, the results should be nullified for africa if, and only if, Africa is not sending a lineup, or the result cannot make opponent from the eliminated team, move away from the position he are(like was with spain). Same for Colombia. Because even if they're out, they still has 1 match to play and this can impact on final group standings. For example, let's suppose on a group the 1st place has 6 points and 2nd place has 3 points, and the team with 6 points is facing a team that has no way to advance. This team with 6 point is already qualified? Yes. But their position in group could not have been defined yet, and the last match can end a 6-0 loss that make them fall to 2nd place on tiebreaks. This is a possible scenario, although unlikely. Edited September 18, 2023 by caioxlive13 Link to comment
Eipott Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, gbwead said: Potential Tie Breakers Group B Peru, China & Germany China, Germany & Mexico Second Scenario: 3 teams fighting for 1 spot 3 Teams Round Robin (OU / UU / NU / Dubs / LC): 5/7 days (15 duels total / 10 duels to prepare per team) 3 Teams Round Robin (Captain Choices x3): 3 days (9 duels total / 6 duels to prepare per team) Since this is the most likely scenario for our group, I would like to talk about this. I think both options are viable. Option 1 is the playoff format, so it would be a good idea to already play it in the tiebreakers. Option 2 is a bit cooler, since it is less work for the teams and gives some space for tactical stuff, but it is more likely to get another 3-way-tie since there are less matches to play. I already mentioned that both of this options can potentially lead to a tiebreak again. This is my main issue with this solution, but tbh I've thought about this for a whole day and didn't have an idea to solve this without using a lottery in this very unlikely case or go with the seeding, which would give an unfair advantage to the higher rated teams and make upsets harder. Since it is very unlikely to happen, I would just take the risk but go with Option 1 where the risk is a bit lower. gbwead 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 5:17 PM, gbwead said: Dubs: Imabetheverybest Vs Jhowteon LC: awallz Vs DridrigoFK Imabetheverybest has been subbed out by @Nuzlocked. awallz has been subbed out by @xSparkie. @DridrigoFK @JhowCrazy @drewq Link to comment
JhowCrazy Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, gbwead said: Imabetheverybest has been subbed out by @Nuzlocked. awallz has been subbed out by @xSparkie. @DridrigoFK @JhowCrazy @drewq Ok, I just hope they don't change the DB player a third time, because this is already becoming a mess, first you see the opposing team's lineup, and then choose yours. gbwead, LeJovi, Queza and 1 other 4 Link to comment
drewq Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 hours ago, JhowCrazy said: Ok, I just hope they don't change the DB player a third time, because this is already becoming a mess, first you see the opposing team's lineup, and then choose yours. My brother in christ it is Tuesday. Figure it out TohnR 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 5:17 PM, gbwead said: UU: SpartaFS Vs LeZenor SpartaFS has been subbed out by @Stokes. @LeZenor @Mkns1070 @Gabriel20 Link to comment
gbwead Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 5:17 PM, gbwead said: OU: Juanchoqui Vs Frags OU: CaptnBaklava Vs lManjiro Juanchoqui has been subbed out by @Busso. Manjiro has been subbed out by @Fibraxxx. @Frag @xLuneth @ArthurLeywinn @CaptnBaklava @PepeDeLaGente @Eipott Link to comment
TohnR Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) Is this a sub posting thread ? You guys can't make up your mind to play one game ? 🤣 Tells a lot about the event ... Edited September 20, 2023 by TohnR DridrigoFK, Queza, Quinn010 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TohnR said: Is this a sub posting thread ? You guys can't make up your mind to play one game ? 🤣 Tells a lot about the event ... If you don't want to see that much subs, play Individual events where they don't happen... Oh yeah, we can't, we had almost no large Individual Event Edited September 21, 2023 by caioxlive13 Link to comment
Wallarro Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Hace 7 horas, caioxlive13 dijo: Si no quieres ver tantos suscriptores, juega a eventos individuales donde no sucedan... Oh, sí, no podemos, casi no tuvimos un gran evento individual For what we need individual events, there are automated tournaments Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wallarro said: For what we need individual events, there are automated tournaments Livetours are s***, we lack some scheduling individual tours, open to the public. The most recent we had are Grand Slam, VGC seasonal and PGC, all in past year. The only one this year is slam. While we had no individual tour we have overflow of team tours. Past year we have 5. This year 2 have been done, World Cup is in progress, and PCL is scheduled to the end of the year. Edited September 21, 2023 by caioxlive13 JorgeFirebolt and NiceRNGbro 2 Link to comment
Eipott Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, caioxlive13 said: Livetours are s***, we lack some scheduling individual tours, open to the public. The most recent we had are Grand Slam, VGC seasonal and PGC, all in past year. The only one this year is slam. While we had no individual tour we have overflow of team tours. Past year we have 5. This year 2 have been done, World Cup is in progress, and PCL is scheduled to the end of the year. It's just way more fun to achieve sth. as a team. Winning TT last month was so much hype because we were able to celebrate together and enjoy it as a community. I completely disagree about having a lag of individual tours. You got Ladder, Matchmaking and Automated tours. Also we have stuff like the weekly Pouf Tours for LC, where you can play a tier that has no matchmaking. This is enough for me. Also most pvp teams got team tours and scrims in addition. TohnR 1 Link to comment
Wallarro Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Hace 9 horas, caioxlive13 dijo: Los Livetours son s***, nos faltan algunos horarios de recorridos individuales, abiertos al público. Los más recientes que tuvimos son Grand Slam, VGC estacional y PGC, todo el año pasado. El único este año es el slam. Aunque no tuvimos una gira individual, tenemos un montón de giras en equipo. El año pasado tenemos 5. Este año se ha hecho 2, la Copa del Mundo está en curso y la PCL está programada para finales de año. You can't say shit to something when you founded the shittiest event in all of mmo that no one even plays Razachu 1 Link to comment
CaptnBaklava Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 What exactly happend with Africa and Columbia? Link to comment
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