Legendary Lures are a Scam

[gbwead]

I looked into the value of Legendary Lures and how they compare to Expert Lures when it comes to hunting Legendaries. Even if they dropped to 30k on the GTL, they would still not be worth using.
 

The following table shows how inefficient Legendary Lures are currently:

Time Saved & Money Spent by using Legendary vs Expert Lures
Rate	1/1000	1/2000	1/3000	1/4000	1/5000	1/6000	1/7000	1/8000
Time Saved	42m	1h23m	2h05m	2h46m	3h28m	4h10m	4h51m	5h33m
Money Spent	$1,199,328	$2,401,206	$3,600,480	$4,799,808	$5,999,136	$7,198,464	$8,400,342	$9,599,670
Assuming - Legendary Lures cost 90k - 1 encounter per 8.5 steps for Legendary Lures and per 9 steps for Expert Lures - 5 encounters per minute - Legendary Lures increase encounter rate by 15% - Expert Lures increase encounter rate by 10% - Using an encounter rate enhancing ability (Swarm / Illuminate)

The following table shows the average time spent to encounter a legendary:

Average Time to Encounter a Legendary using	Rate
	1/1000	1/2000	1/3000	1/4000	1/5000	1/6000	1/7000	1/8000
Legendary Lures	1h37m	3h14m	4h51m	6h28m	8h25m	9h42m	11h19m	12h56m
Expert Lures	2h19m	4h37m	6h56m	9h15m	11h33m	13h52m	16h10m	18h29m

 

Source that Legendary Encounter Rate is between 1/1000 and 1/8000:

On 1/5/2024 at 5:53 PM, Damian said:

All we know is it's somewhere between 1/1000 and 1/8000.

 

Conclusion: Don't buy legendary lures, you will be disappointed.

[Zokuru]

That's pretty concerning about how new features are balanced.

[Mkns1070]

Yes but where is my zapdos ?

[XanarchyNL]

For some people, money isn't a problem and they'd rather save time. But yeah for the majority of players, it isn't worth it.
But then again, that's the point. It's a premium product. Not everyone should be able to use them for the entire hunt.

 

[SakuyaZ]

They should add an item call "super Legendary Lure", 100% encounter those never caught Legendaries in next battle. Set in game price for 2M in store. for those ppl who doesn't have time and wants their OTs.

[Johnwaynee]

[hannahtaylor]

Yes I agree. In fact, I've been hunting ever since the legendaries have come out and I have none of them yet. Yep that's right, not a single one. I don't believe they even exist any more >.>

[Bertolfoso]

That's the same as all chance boosters (shiny charms, idr if there are others). They only need to be perceived as having effect more than actually having it. With this I am not saying that the devs are lying with rates, but that how much these item boost is not important as how much the general playerbase thinks it boosts (maths is hard to grasp for people not used to it).

 

Legendary lures are "scam", Shiny Charms are "scam".

 

9 hours ago, XanarchyNL said:

For some people, money isn't a problem and they'd rather save time. But yeah for the majority of players, it isn't worth it.
But then again, that's the point. It's a premium product. Not everyone should be able to use them for the entire hunt.

 I disagree, the requirement is 1 region and 2 lvl100 pokemon, everyone that is interested in getting legendaries gets 3 a week, not really premium.

[Barrelztitor]

6 hours ago, Johnwaynee said:

BRO im gonna steal this golden meme

[Jgaw]

Shiny charms

Legendary lures

All kind of lures

Donator status

Those are money drainers, for old accounts + rich accounts, they don't work

The main goal is, maintaining a safe balance of economy of the game and that sucks a lot, sorry

[razimove]

31 minutes ago, Jgaw said:

Those are money drainers, for old accounts + rich accounts, they don't work

How much is 1 month donator rn? haven't logged in a couple months, assuming 6 mil or less, anyone like me can potentially buy donator for more than 100 years without batting an eye. They are not money drainers, they are resources that you buy player to player, aka money stays in circulation, inflation keeps happening. And that's also irrelevant to what Gb is trying to say. The value from legendary to expert is almost insignificant to the point that its almost a placebo effect.

 

Edited January 12 by razimove

[hannahtaylor]

3 minutes ago, razimove said:

How much is 1 month donator rn? haven't logged in a couple months, assuming 6 mil or less, anyone like me can potentially buy donator for more than 100 years without batting an eye. They are not money drainers, they are resources that you buy player to player, aka money stays in circulation, inflation keeps happening. And that's also irrelevant to what Gb is trying to say. The value from legendary to expert is almost insignificant to the point that its almost a placebo effect.

 

yeah 30 days is about 3.5m

[DoubleJ]

I worry gb is not feeling very fulfilled in his first job after college. Nice graphics champ.

[Jgaw]

3 hours ago, razimove said:

How much is 1 month donator rn? haven't logged in a couple months, assuming 6 mil or less, anyone like me can potentially buy donator for more than 100 years without batting an eye. They are not money drainers, they are resources that you buy player to player, aka money stays in circulation, inflation keeps happening. And that's also irrelevant to what Gb is trying to say. The value from legendary to expert is almost insignificant to the point that its almost a placebo effect.

 

All ur quotes are always against what i say, and that keeps happening, razimove will always counter u

All my used donator lately didn't work at all

Not even a single shiny

So what i ve said above is money draining and none will change my idea

If i get a shiny legendary i quit the game 🤡

[MightyMichele]

Yeah, that the effectiveness of the legendary lure is not too exciting. For their prices practiced in GTL, it seems that they got a lot desired by players. It's probably because of the recent legendary birds and I hope that they will reduce in price in the next months. I remember their price were around 60k each.

 

 

2 hours ago, Jgaw said:

If i get a shiny legendary i quit the game 

 

 

@JgawHey, I hope that you still got a few years playing on PokeMMO until have your legendary shiny ^^

Good luck

 

 

 

 

[gbwead]

The time saved by using legendary lures cost so much that you would get the legendary birds quicker by just doing gym runs and buying the legendary off the GTL. Even if the Legendary Lures were costing 30k, it would still be more time/money efficient to use expert lures or doing gym runs.

Edited January 12 by gbwead

[RysPicz]

tl;dr legendaryl lures are for people who are ready to overpay to have a legendary with their own OT

 

you are welcome GB

[Splxx]

Even though the legendary decoy has no additional effect , It's just that I've been using zapdos for more than 50 hours and I haven't found success.🫡

Edited January 12 by Splxx

[razimove]

1 hour ago, Splxx said:

Even though the legendary decoy has no additional effect , It's just that I've been using zapdos for more than 50 hours and I haven't found success.🫡

But for sure you had a lot of fun doing such an engaging activity, right?

 

I wish more people would speak against the current system as a whole, and would probably be nice to even compile every problem PvE wise into a single thread. Doubt it gets anywhere but doesnt hurt to try

[Jgaw]

4 hours ago, MightyMichele said:

@JgawHey, I hope that you still got a few years playing on PokeMMO until have your legendary shiny ^^

Good luck

I will age in game cuz i Will Never get that, i trust the shiny rate system

[caioxlive13]

The legend lures as well as Expert Lures, are doing greatly their job. Act as Money Shrinks. People are spending millions with lures searching for legends(Legendary Lure also are money shrinks because the trade on GTL has a fee.)

[repposh]

was about to buy some then saw this thread by accident lol 

[Xratello]

Sounds like brokies like me skip that lure thing then...i assume... 

[Zuladra]

2 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:

The legend lures as well as Expert Lures, are doing greatly their job. Act as Money Shrinks. People are spending millions with lures searching for legends(Legendary Lure also are money shrinks because the trade on GTL has a fee.)

Investing time and money in a task without making progress is an interesting gaming concept!

Can't wait to run for hours in the grass in the hope of capturing new legendaries!

[caioxlive13]

2 hours ago, Zuladra said:

Investing time and money in a task without making progress is an interesting gaming concept!

Can't wait to run for hours in the grass in the hope of capturing new legendaries!

People complaint about the inflation, now we have gigantic and disguised Money Shrinks that let the money flow ellsewhere. As long as legends be attractive, inflation is under control 100%

Edited January 14 by caioxlive13